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08/04/2005
American morning
This morning was business as usual: I unloaded the dishwasher while Charlie sat in his chair after breakfast, contentedly gnawing on a rubber-backed coaster, laying salivary waste to the top half of Central Park. I had the small kitchen TV tuned to CNN on the off chance that some useful nugget of information might somehow fight its way past Charlie's high-pitched yodeling and my sleepy brain's defenses to lodge itself into my consciousness.
I turned my head for a moment to face the screen as I stacked Charlie's bottles in their customary pyramid on the counter, and saw the chiron, "OHIO MOURNS." The anchorwoman said it had been a bloody night in Iraq, bringing the toll to at least 24 American servicepeople dead this week, 19 of them from the same Ohio Marine battalion.
The anchorwoman was speaking to the parents of one young Marine who had died Edward, called Augie heroically trying to get them to conform to the network's pro-war thrust. To my surprise, given how recent their loss and how strong my own prejudices, they resisted.
"Was it always his dream to become a Marine?" she asked, for example. No, they answered, but he had always liked to serve, ever since he got his EMT certification in high school. To me they seemed as proud of that as they were of his enlistment; I liked them for it.
I liked them even more when the anchor asked, "Did he feel what he was doing was worthwhile?" Augie's father hesitated, then said, "The longer he stayed, the more he questioned whether it was worthwhile."
The anchor swiftly tried to put his remarks into a more comfortable context. "...What with the insurgents coming back again and again?" No, the Marine's father clarified, and spoke of his son's reluctance to disrupt the lives of the ordinary people of Iraq, subjecting them to searches and uncertainty, constant fear and danger...
Then a brisk "Thank you for being here." Cut to commercial.
Charlie was fussing; he'd thrown his coaster to the floor and wanted it back. I gave it to him, and when I saw his smile of satisfaction as he carefully worked his fingers around it in a still-unperfected grasp, it hit me for the very first time.
There are all kinds of things people tell you you won't understand until you're a parent. If you're infertile, you bitterly resent that, and you might not quite believe it. I didn't. But although I knew it intellectually, I did not understand, until I gave my pajamaed son his coaster and watched him jam it against his gums with a shudder of eagerness, that every soldier who fights and dies was once some mother's baby.
The same parents who spoke of their son's valor while quietly showing their own used to bend and get that jettisoned toy, used to aim that spoon of prunes toward the moving target of a rosebud mouth, used to laugh in exasperation when that baby sneezed with a mouthful of food.
And I know this isn't an original thought. This is what we're supposed to realize, what we forget only at our peril, after all, when we talk about grave subjects like war and death, that we're all connected, that "they" are also "us." But I've never felt it before, not with the visceral lurch of true understanding I felt this morning. And it made me queasy, and it made me cry, and it made me plant my nose at the base of Charlie's neck with uncommon fervor, breathing deeply, wishing it were different for Augie, his parents, everyone, us.
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Comments (96)
Oh, yeah. (sniff!)
Posted by: Christine at Aug 4, 2005 9:24:31 AM
so beautiful. Thank you.
Posted by: at Aug 4, 2005 9:25:31 AM
I'm sure you're against us being in Iraq- because it just seems like that's what most of the world is- against us being there. I don't know anymore where we should be- if we left Iraq, would it help? If we stayed, does it help?
All I know is- I've BEEN through Marine Corps boot camp and I've SPENT 4 years in the Corps. Every face, every name, hits me right in my heart when I hear of a loss. I'm pregnant now with my very first boy and I KNOW I'll be damn proud if he chooses to serve and I KNOW I'll be damn terrified at the same time. It's a sacrifice no parent wants to make...
Sorry- I was watching the news yesterday about this and it made me so sad. So many young men and women are gone and it seems like, for the most part, America doesn't even CARE. Specific towns, yes, families, yes- but as a whole? No. America goes on her way and she forgets about her soldiers and troops at war. A silly little yellow magnet slapped on your car isn't support if you don't put any thought behind it.
Posted by: Trish at Aug 4, 2005 9:26:22 AM
I've found being a new mother makes me raw this way. Sometimes it is funny, like when I'm at Krogers in line with some crazy old coot and I think of all the perfect potential he had at birth. Other times, like when the daughter of a friend died in a freak accident a week after graduating from HS, it makes me squeeze Henry tighter.
Posted by: Rayne of Terror at Aug 4, 2005 9:28:21 AM
I cried yesterday when I heard the news for the same reason. Somewhere a parent had their heart ripped out.
I cried again when I read your post. Then I hugged my baby tightly and was thankful.
Posted by: ccw at Aug 4, 2005 9:40:32 AM
I think that's where parents have the edge over non-parents. All of a sudden you objectivise a lot more, and can see more of the whole issue. If you can take time off from the snot and toy picking up, that is...
You understand that most people are essentially decent human beings who basically just want their children to be happy. This includes the bombers- they are fighting for what they see as a just cause. Until the powers that be understand that, they will fail to crack the security problems in Iraq and elsewhere.
And I find myself disagreeing with US public opinion if it is steering towards withdrawal now. After so many months in occupation, this would be the worst possible option, leaving a power vacuum, and could precipitate Iraq into civil war of the worst kind.
The time to oppose this war was before, not now that it's starting to get really messy. And I know that you, Julie, did, along with millions of other Americans and Brits.
Posted by: e at Aug 4, 2005 9:41:30 AM
I can't get it into words properly, so....
Yes. Just, yes.
Posted by: Brandee at Aug 4, 2005 9:41:50 AM
That brought tears to my eyes. What a beautiful post.
Posted by: B at Aug 4, 2005 9:45:17 AM
This post is fabulous.
Let me tell you that I vividly remember Desert Storm. I was really shaken up by it.
By the time this most recent conflict came around, though, I was a mother of infant twins with a husband in the military. The night in March when the fighting started, I felt things I never have before.
I admit that I had pictures taken of the girls with their father in uniform just in case. I never in my life thought I'd do something like that.
And then when you're a military family and you have your objections to the fighting, it's a whole other issue. When my husband did go over, he was particularly miserable because he didn't at all believe in his mission.
My thoughts go back and forth when it comes to those lost. On one hand, I see my husband in those who were married and/or those who had families. On the other hand, I see birthdates in the 1980's and I think, "They were just babies. This was someone's child."
Posted by: Drama Queen at Aug 4, 2005 9:45:28 AM
Oh my. I had the same gut-punching realization when I heard that very family's "story" on NPR this morning on my drive into work. I wanted to turn around and drive right back to my son's daycare to kiss his perfect apple cheeks one more time. Instead I just pulled into my parking space in the garage and burst into tears.
Posted by: Mandy at Aug 4, 2005 9:58:03 AM
Yes, life is fragile for every mother and father's child. Watching the news all day back on September 11, 2001, was all the more terrifying because of the toddler I had ushered into this cruel world. Seeing in the newspaper today a picture of a crying woman who "just knew" her only son was gone when she heard the news out of Iraq was also a kick in the stomach.
(Oddly, biological science would suggest that Dick Cheney was once a baby being nurtured with prunes, too.)
Posted by: Orange at Aug 4, 2005 10:04:54 AM
I remember so vividly when I had this same realization. My older child was born in June 2001, and was not quite 4 months old when the attacks of September 11 happened. On that morning, I was following my usual routine -- nurse the baby, quietly put him down and hope for enough time to take a shower, watch the Today show, and eat breakfast.
But my husband called me before I could hit the shower and told me to turn on the news, as there had been some sort of event in NYC that involved the World Trade Towers. I sat in front of the TV for the next several hours, transfixed at what I was seeing, unable to comprehend, even as the buildings came crashing down.
Throughout all of this, I held my son in my lap. But not until later that night, as I was nursing my son before putting him to bed for the night, did it hit me -- all of those people who had died were someone's son or daughter, and had been held and rocked to sleep by their mothers just as I was doing with my own son. I was floored by the thought of losing my child in the way that those people had just lost theirs. And for the first time since his birth, I was completely and terrifyingly overwhelmed by the thought of someday letting my son make his own way in the world.
Of course, he will make his way. And I will let him. But I hope that by the time he does, I don't have to worry that he'll be sent to fight a losing war, or be blown up while on his way to work at home.
Posted by: Amy at Aug 4, 2005 10:12:15 AM
sigh ... pause ... yes. I've been trying to arrange your last paragraph in my head for weeks now. You expressed it perfectly.
I'm feeling things like this more and more as I walk this path called parenthood. It's like a coming-of-age, where we learn to sympathize with a new depth of feeling.
Most recently, I got all teary-eyed about Terry Fox. It was 24 years ago that he died midway through his Marathon of Hope. It's like it FINALLY hit me, because now I too have children that I couldn't bear to lose.
Posted by: peefer at Aug 4, 2005 10:12:43 AM
I just had to delurk and comment here, because the exact same moment happened to me yesterday. My husband is a manager of a series of MICU units from several hospitals as well as a 911 dispatch center. He was listening to a recorded call on his computer last night, it was a 3 week old baby who wasn't breathing.
Now, I've heard these recordings before. They use them for training purposes after the fact, and he chooses which ones to use. But not since I've had a son (who's almost 7 months old, born on the same day as Tertia's babes).
I couldn't stay in the room. Listening to the mothers unsteady panicky heartbreaking voice as she was instructed to do CPR until the medic's arrived about broke my heart.
I had to go upstairs, and stand next to CD's crib, place my hand on his little chest and weep as I felt it move up and down.
(the child was OK, btw, and I knew that when I started listening, but I just couldn't listen)
It's amazing when that happens, and you'd never believe it before the fact.
Posted by: Quianca at Aug 4, 2005 10:14:41 AM
I find that after becoming a parent, every child, small or grown, that I hear about on the news is in some way my own child. My mind can't help but think, "What if I was that parent? What if that was MY child?" Before, I would hear of some catastrophe and agree that it was terrible, what a shame, etc. Now I put my own baby in that place, just for a split second, and shudder. Having a baby really does change everything.
Posted by: Sarah at Aug 4, 2005 10:23:34 AM
And those starving babies on TV, or the ones who need some cheap but unavailable medical care...until I had children, I just didn't feel the horror. Imagine being a parent and being so helpless to care for and protect your child on even such a basic level.
Posted by: andrea at Aug 4, 2005 10:28:58 AM
you said it sister...and sadly I think your comments are going to turn into a debate about the war. But then, you had to know that would probably happen.
I have a cousin over there, Marine, right now. Come from a long line of Marines. And goddammit if he comes home in a bodybag I will not be able to say "It was worth it" It's a fucking waste of good strong young men. Just kids really...
Posted by: ktcakes at Aug 4, 2005 10:32:25 AM
I, too, trace these types of thoughts back to 9/11. I was about six months pregnant with my first and was in the middle of a huge meeting when everyone's cell phones started ringing. One of the men in the meeting, a brilliant older man, came back in the room with a look on his face I will never forget. "I regret to inform you all that the WTC has been struck by an aircraft and it appears we are under some sort of attack." All I wanted to do was run. Somewhere. Anywhere. My only instinct was to protect my baby. It makes me cry still today. And today it also makes me want to go get her at preschool and snuggle with her all day and never let her out into this world.
And what I hate about our country right now is that most people muster sympathy for the nearly 2000 American souls lost (in between trips to Wal-Mart searching for the latest magnetic ribbon -- which go on UP and DOWN people, I know you want them to be, but they are not fish), but few think of all those Iraqi women mourning the approximately 40,000 Iraqi people killed since the beginning of the invasion. That very fact shows what is so wrong with America: somehow the value of an American life is much higher than anyone else and it shows in our policy, history, and ultimately maybe, our fall from greatness.
Posted by: Imperfect Mommy at Aug 4, 2005 10:33:27 AM
You have stated this feeling so very well, and I too vividly remember when this same thought happened to me. It only gets stronger as the babe grows. My whole world has been rearranged such that everyone I meet is someone's wonderful, special baby. Even the assholes!
Posted by: Pumpkinmama at Aug 4, 2005 10:41:04 AM
Quianca, your post just took my breath. I was that mother 6 months ago after my little boy had a seizure. By the time I got the 911 dispatcher on the phone my usually very calm husband was screaming in agony as he tried to revive our son who had stopped breathing. We thought we had lost him, our little boy. My God but I will never forget nor could I possibly describe the feeling of utter terror and desolation. Our son was fine but that night really changed us. I am against war in general, not this war in particular, just war in general. I can’t imagine how as a parent one could possibly feel otherwise, maybe because I grew up with bombings and death on the news every night and the threat of terrorism, maybe that has a lot to do with my aversion to war.
I heard that interview on NPR this morning as I fed my children and it made me so sad and frightened. We got our son back, those parents weren’t so lucky. In my opinion, selfishly maybe, nothing is worth that.
Posted by: Hazel at Aug 4, 2005 10:44:19 AM
That post made me want to run home and grab up my baby boy. How moving it was to me. I have been having lots of in general thoughts like this since I have become a mother, yet have not been able to put it into coherent words. Thank you for that.
Posted by: Laurie at Aug 4, 2005 10:48:53 AM
As an extension to your thought, I don't understand how a mother of a suicide bomber can be filmed, the day after a bombing, that she is proud of her son and hopes that her other son's will follow on the older-brother-bomber's footsteps.
Posted by: thrice at Aug 4, 2005 10:49:08 AM
I couldn't agree more.
Try having an 18 year old son when the 'folks up on the hill'start talking about the draft.
The hair on the back of my neck stands up even as I type this.
Posted by: Tammy at Aug 4, 2005 10:50:51 AM
De-Lurking
This blog entry struck such a strong chord in my heart. I can't tell you how many times I hold my baby a little bit tighter and breathe in his scent as deep as possible...as if to memorize it and hope and pray that I never have to lose him. My dearest friend is in the military and when he's overseas I die a small death each time I hear about the covert operations losing soldiers.
The families of the deceased soldiers must think its so cliche to say "We're so proud that he made the ultimate sacrifice for our country".
I am just being honest and saying, I don't think I could ever fathom being happy that my one & only gave the "ultimate sacrifice"... He's my baby, just like all the other soldiers are somebody else's baby at one time.
I support our troops 100% because those are someone's baby, someone's lover, someone's daddy or mommy... They are real people and to think that so many souls are lost in the fight... Its so heartwrending.
Thanks for this post and I'm sorry if I seem random. Your words stated it all so eloquently.
Posted by: Blondie at Aug 4, 2005 10:56:22 AM
wonderful post. thank you.
Posted by: lindsey at Aug 4, 2005 10:57:55 AM
Amazing post, Julie. Another one that takes my breath and brings tears to my eyes.
I don't have kids. I'm not an American. I don't agree with the war in Iraq. Nevertheless, I hope and pray every day that people I don't know remain safe. Caring and thinking is the only thing that can bring peace.
Posted by: Garnigal at Aug 4, 2005 10:59:04 AM
Yes, that's it exactly! Since my daughter was born, I have been acutely aware of what separates us from people who have suffered the tragedy of losing a child -- nothing. Nothing but God's grace.
Posted by: Julie at Aug 4, 2005 10:59:15 AM
De-lurking to say that post was beautifully put Julie.
Makes you stop and think for a few minutes, only after it brings tears to your eyes.
Posted by: Nicole at Aug 4, 2005 11:02:31 AM
I have thought this since the birth of my daughter but have never said anything because it sounds so... condescending to those without children. I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. But you have said these words beautifully.
honestly, it is just different once you are a parent. You can't look at death the same way without realizing that that man/woman was once someone's precious little baby.
Posted by: Linda B at Aug 4, 2005 11:13:38 AM
Really wonderful Julie.
Posted by: Lisa V at Aug 4, 2005 11:20:49 AM
I cannot imagine how shattering it would be to send a child off to war and to live in fear for their life for months or years.
I've found that the word "sacrifice" means so much more to me now that I'm a mother.
They're in my thoughts.
Posted by: Momness at Aug 4, 2005 11:33:32 AM
You have such an incredible talent for getting to the heart of things. What a beautiful, wrenching post.
--Bugs
Posted by: Dead Bug at Aug 4, 2005 11:41:07 AM
Oddly, biological science would suggest that Dick Cheney was once a baby being nurtured with prunes, too.
No, I'm pretty sure Dick Cheney got the wire mother.
Posted by: Julie at Aug 4, 2005 11:45:11 AM
amen.
Posted by: tpon at Aug 4, 2005 11:48:59 AM
So eloquent and moving...I need to show this to my mom, my oldest brother served (and survived) in Desert Storm in the 82nd Airborne.
I wish it were different for us and them, too.
Posted by: Susan at Aug 4, 2005 11:58:22 AM
the wire mother is right.
thanks for a great post.
Posted by: charis at Aug 4, 2005 12:13:23 PM
Beautiful post Julie.
One thing I feel obliged to mention - as no one else has yet in the comments - that not only was everyone of those soldiers once someone's beloved prune eating child - but so were all the Iraqi civilians - 23,000+ to date - who've died as a consequence of their so-called liberation.
Posted by: mari at Aug 4, 2005 12:15:31 PM
That's my girl: bringing the perfect mix of gravitas, humour, and stunning insight to the most mundane (and tragic) aspects of human existence.
I love you.
Posted by: Mollie at Aug 4, 2005 12:27:36 PM
Thank you for this beautiful post.
Posted by: liz at Aug 4, 2005 12:33:57 PM
Not a day goes by that I don't pray that both my children outlive me. And not a "wee small hour of the morning" goes by without me "panicking" that something catastrophic might happen to my family. I always hope the same thing -- that if something horrible has to happen, it happens to me, and not to my children or my husband. I thought these anxiety attacks were unique until I started speaking about it with more and more of my friends who are moms. Seems that there's nothing unique about it.
Posted by: Stacey at Aug 4, 2005 12:40:00 PM
Delurking to say that my son's name is Augie too and I haven't stopped crying since I heard. While it may not be an original thought you had this morning it is one you will feel with the same pain every time you hear of another parent's loss. It's true that the way we love our children is so unimaginable that we can feel it through someone elses loss. Even the fleeting thought of our own loss is unbearable.
Posted by: Olga at Aug 4, 2005 12:47:45 PM
As a mother, as a military wife, as an American, this really hit me hard. I cannot imagine being the woman who realizes her son or daughter or husband is gone forever. Each morning I wake up each of my children, get them dressed and hold them for a few minutes. Just cuddling them and loving them. Those are the times I think of my own daughter who died (she would be 9 next month) and I think of the people who lose their children in accidents, in war, in life. It is impossible for me to fathom how deeply it wounds those parents and so I hug my children just a little tighter and I tell them I love them more than anything in the world, and I squeeze my son's little 8-month old body closer to mine and whisper in his ear that he'll always be mama's little boy and God, how I love him.
We should be thankful for our children and our husbands and those who strive to protect our freedoms and the freedoms of other people, right or wrong. Ultimately, these men and women chose to serve and in serving died fighting for others. Does it really matter if the cause seemed worth it or not? Does it really matter if we don't need to be 'over there'? They died with honor, fighting for other people because they believed that serving their country was the right thing to do. We should be honoring them for that choice. Making it worth the sacrifice no matter what the conflict is. Just saying we shouldn't be there or it's not worth fighting for diminishes the value of their choice. I don't agree with how this war has been fought, but I do think it is one worth fighting. These are people with only terror as their government. This is a country with nuclear capability and an undying hatred of other people. This is a country that kills its own people. That cannot be allowed in our world. These are children just like ours. Wouldn't we all do the same for our own children?
Posted by: Aurora at Aug 4, 2005 12:56:48 PM
Beautifully said, Julie.
And the wire mother comment? Made me nearly snort coffee through my nose.
Posted by: suburban misfit at Aug 4, 2005 1:01:00 PM
Wow. You made me cry when I least expected it. I have a very dear friend in Iraq right now who usually I hear from every other day or so via e-mail. I haven't heard from him in over a week and I'm freaking out. And this is just my friend....I can't imagine how his mother must feel.
I pray every day that all our troops will be home soon.
Posted by: summerbreeze at Aug 4, 2005 1:32:52 PM
I heard the same family interviewed this morning on NPR as I drove into work. I pulled into the garage with mascara and tears streaming down my face. Between sobs I had been cheering for the parents and the sister who so eloquently and thoughtfully relayed their opposition to this war and their pride in their son/brother. They are not conflicting ideals, despite what some try to tell us.
Thanks for posting on this. Very touching.
Jessica
Posted by: Jessica (Seattle) at Aug 4, 2005 1:40:25 PM
Although we have no children yet, and who knows if we ever will, I couldn't help but think of this as well. I cried last night listening to interviews on NPR. I think about my brothers. Their friends. I cry when I think about families in Iraq. It's all awful and I just just hope it could end soon. This morning I woke up to some interview, I don't even know with whom since I turned it off so quickly, with someone saying that we're in this for years to come. It sickened me.
We need to remind ourselves of the details. This post helps. Thank you.
Posted by: Katie/WannaBeMom at Aug 4, 2005 1:58:09 PM
I agree that learning to see every person as “some mother’s child” is one of the most important lessons of parenthood. How can we teach our kids compassion if we can’t recognize that such an elemental connection links us all?
I also want to add that your post really drives home for me just how silenced this perspective is in the current political climate. From the complete lack of public commentary on the number of Iraqi civilian deaths to the media’s need to frame the deaths of American soldiers in a comforting narrative of “ultimate sacrifice,” there seems to be a real resistance to confronting the possibility that this war is generating a massive loss of life for no meaningful gain. I felt so proud of Augie’s parents for speaking out about this possibility despite the pressure to keep quiet. I just hope that more of us will start to listen to what they have to say.
Posted by: chandra at Aug 4, 2005 2:12:22 PM
After Jamie was born, it was like my emotional nerve-endings were exposed. They've built up a little bit of a callous, but I am also constantly reminded that everyone who suffers or dies, was once someone's baby.
And then, there are the children who aren't born into loving homes, when I see and here of babies (and I mean children of all ages, they're all babies to me) who are mistreated and unloved, it takes my breath away. And I am just thankful that I've been given the opportunity to love and raise my son.
Posted by: Ally at Aug 4, 2005 2:40:58 PM
(Sniffs, wipes tears, tries hard not to think of own sons in a flag-draped coffin.)
I love you Julie, thank you so much for this. My almost 14 year old really wants to move to Canada. Maybe I should listen to him.
Posted by: Beth at Aug 4, 2005 3:01:50 PM
My heart goes out to the families of those brave, young soldiers.
Every once in a while, I come across something that makes me realize how lucky I am and and how I need to re-think complaining about the small stuff. This post has done this for me today.
It helped me remember how lucky I am that when my husband was mobilized for Desert Storm and sent to wait as a "replacement" in California, the war was over so quickly (and with so few casualties, thank God) that he was returned home safely without needing to go to South East Asia, as planned.
It helped me remember the horror I felt on 9/11 when the first tower fell knowing that my husband's former co-workers had all responded to the calls and were standing at the base of the building as it crumbled. It was almost one year to the day that my husband resigned from NYPD to work for a more local police department. If not, he would have been standing there, too. For that new job, I am lucky.
It helped me remember how lucky I am to say that my "little" cousin returned safely home after 18 months in Iraq and many, many delays. (his unit was the 2nd longest to be deployed for war since WWII)
It helped me remember that my last two pregnancies were supposedly "doomed" and not going to result in living, breathing children. Those two children are sitting behind me arguing over a game of "Sorry" as I type this. To be able to hear that argument at all, I am lucky.
This is all very humbling, today. So now, I am going to sit on the floor with my two little ones and let them beat me in a game of "Sorry". I may also build them a bubble to live in, in an attempt to keep them safe from the evils of this world. Having three sons and a husband that was a Marine, the probability that at least one (or all) of them will choose to go into the military some day. I just can't think of the horrible possibilities.....
Thanks, Julie. I haven't had a wake up call in a while.
Posted by: Dani at Aug 4, 2005 3:05:59 PM
Yes yes yes. You hit the nail on the head for me and so many other mothers. My husband does not even understand how these horrible stories affect me now. How sad it makes me to think of something like that happening to my own child.
I was away on my first business trip since my son had been born when Laci Peterson and her baby's bodies were found. I remember sitting on the hotel bed sobbing into the phone to my husband, wanting so badly to be home and cuddling my 3 month old son (Laci and I were due at the same time). I, too, shudder at the thought of sending my child out into the world, even if it's only to daycare.
Posted by: Amy at Aug 4, 2005 3:07:16 PM
Thanks you for making me cry after doing my nails for the first time in six months. I can't WIPE, dammit. Beautifully written, and I agree 100%, especially about Cheney.
Posted by: Lisa S (et al aka Stolidoli) at Aug 4, 2005 3:15:26 PM
Well said, Julie.
Posted by: Molly at Aug 4, 2005 3:19:44 PM
Wonderful. Someone should send the link to the president.
Posted by: EJW at Aug 4, 2005 3:20:15 PM
Yes.
Posted by: Sweetcoalminer at Aug 4, 2005 3:49:23 PM
I live in Ohio and know many of the men in this unit. Specifically Lima Co, which lost 9 men yesterday alone. We are all on pins and needles waiting for the media to release all the names.
I am going through my first cycle of IVF, 5 days post transfer with BETA test on Monday. As a wannabe Mommy, (pumped with hormones) I agree whole-heartedly that the sorrow must be amplified for parents. Not just their parents, but any parent, who imagines a soldier approaching their front door to deliver the bad news.
I also respect the parents for speaking out against President Bush and the reasons for continuing the war. There is a difference between supporting our troups and supporting the war, and it's high time someone realize that. The soldiers that have returned from Iraq tell me the same thing, the longer thet are there the less they feel worthy. God bless those men. They are truly the bravest and proudest men.
Posted by: Allie at Aug 4, 2005 4:04:54 PM
Oh, Julie, that was perfect. Everyone should be made to read those articles and your entry today (perhaps Laura can read it to her hubbie).
Posted by: Cecily at Aug 4, 2005 4:12:15 PM
Too right. Beautifully said, Julie.
Posted by: Becki at Aug 4, 2005 4:16:24 PM
Oh...thank goodness it's not just me having these feelings. I've been crying for two days about a young mother and her child who died recently in a fire. The mother valiantly tried to save her baby, putting her in the kitchen sink with water, but they both died of smoke inhalation. It's ripping my heart out to just type this. Her baby looked alot like my 3 month old.
I would have still been sad for them before I had my own baby. But now, it really just tears at me. Do you ever get used to it, I wonder?
Posted by: Erika at Aug 4, 2005 4:24:02 PM
I want to say that I feel sorry for this family, for their loss. I don't though. I think that I am done feeling sorry. Now I am just angry. Angry that poor Americans, who signed up as soldiers because they had no other choice, are dying. More angry that innocent children (and adults) are being murdered each day in the name of 'freedom'and 'democracy'. These people never asked to be saved. They didn't like Hussein, that's clear. They didn't like the US either. All that has been accomplished (so far) is the replacement of one corrupt government with another. This war is creating terrorists, not ending terrorism.
Posted by: One concerned viewer at Aug 4, 2005 4:24:49 PM
Your post was so touching. I cried and cried and thought about how I, during what is the happiest time of my life, sometimes forget about the war that is going on. Thank you for reminding me that every soldier (and as someone else commented, every Iraqi civilian) is/was somebody's child. The way you put it made me cry even harder as we just started our daughter on solids and I pictured grieving mothers, thinking back to those wonderfully sweet days.
Posted by: Colleen at Aug 4, 2005 4:31:33 PM
Yes. Yes. And it never stops, that heartwrenching comprehension of what a mother goes through.
I hate saying that you cannot understand certain things until you are a mother yourself. Understandably, it would make someone who desperately wants to become a mother angry and bitter. Which is why I would never say it to someone who is struggling with infertility; their pain is enough to deal with already.
But in my heart, I believe it is true. I never had emotions about lost sons and daughters like I have now. Or perhaps I had those emotions, but they were more intellectual and less visceral. It's just different now. It just is.
Posted by: patricia at Aug 4, 2005 4:44:09 PM
Most of what you have said resonates with me. But any compassionate person both knows and feels that every soldier (and Iraqi) who dies in war is someone's child. There are many non-parents (such as myself) who feel this accutely, and many parents who do not seem to make this connection. Sadly, creating a life does not automatically instill that depth of understanding in a person; perhaps if it did there would be no child abuse.
I believe that this is about one's capacity for love, and the depth of empathy that one feels, rather then status as a parent.
Still, there is much value in your words.
Posted by: emp at Aug 4, 2005 5:27:58 PM
Precisely why I don't watch the news right now. My husband is leaving in 6 weeks. He is a pediatric dentist and in a nondeployable medical support unit in the Army National Guard. He is going for 90 days. It is not easy. I cannot bear to hear of a single death on the news, much less 20. The bottom line is this - whether you believe in what we are doing there or not, these people are husbands, fathers, children to someone. They all have a face and a name and a family. They are all giving up chunks of their lives to make our world a better place - and that means following orders whether they belive in them or not. Thanks for a touching entry.
Posted by: amanda8 at Aug 4, 2005 5:40:48 PM
Yesterday my daughters and I (and one daughter's 3mo son) attended the John Singer Sargent exhibit at the Portland Art Museum. Sargent was known for his portraiture, particularly of children who seem suspended in time in these lovely paintings. I spent some time looking at three paintings hanging near each other. Each one was a portrait of mother and sons. One very large portrait was of a wealthy woman, garishly dressed in yards of taffeta with her young son at her side. He was dressed in a sailor's suit and literally perched on a pedestal next to her. Another portrait was quieter with a mother in dark dress seated behind her son reading to him from a small book. Her son was also on a chair but looked extremely bored, either with the reading or the portrait sitting. The third painting was striking in it's casual feeling and loving posture. A smiling woman was seated on a sofa with one young son affectionately leaning over onto her lap. Another slightly older boy was sprawled with bare feet next to his mother. All looked at ease and happy. Each portrait had a different feeling and a different style of motherhood. It seemed obvious that the mother in the third portrait had a closer and more loving relationship with her sons. Or at least Sargent painted it so. Imagine my surprise to then read the posting of the history of that third family: the youngest boy was a soldier in World War I and was killed. The brother never married and committed suicide at age 40. The heartache that mother must have felt...
Posted by: Pam at Aug 4, 2005 5:59:37 PM
But any compassionate person both knows and feels that every soldier (and Iraqi) who dies in war is someone's child. There are many non-parents (such as myself) who feel this accutely, and many parents who do not seem to make this connection. Sadly, creating a life does not automatically instill that depth of understanding in a person; perhaps if it did there would be no child abuse.
I feel I should point out that I didn't say no one can understand such things unless she is a parent. I said I didn't.
Posted by: Julie at Aug 4, 2005 6:32:07 PM
Your entry today was very sweet and unguarded and moving, but I almost found myself wanting a little more... more what? I honestly don't know, except that I read it and now I feel a little empty. But thank you for the emotions-- I feel I can grasp your humanness (and especially your true essence of motherhood) more here.
Posted by: Maria at Aug 4, 2005 6:33:28 PM
You're spot on - it's not an original thought. Anyone who has thoughtfully invested themselves in nurturing a life, whether as a parent or otherwise, has these thoughts.
Which is why it's profoundly appalling that we as a country and our news media as an institution hardly question the whys and wherefores and what-the-fucks of this war... the CNN vignette you describe is priceless: they don't want footage of thoughtful, questioning parents dealing with loss. They want fuel for their machine, which only gets good mileage on hot propaganda.
I have been sad about the war since its inception. But for these past weeks I have felt positively crushed by grief. The American losses are devastating, the Iraqi deaths overwhelming. 800+ per month since Bush declared the war over. Insanity.
And yet I can't imagine that a hasty pullout at this point would help at all. And I look at my two-year-old and realize that someday I'll have to explain this to her. How will I not cry when I do?
Posted by: jenny at Aug 4, 2005 6:43:17 PM
Yes.
I just cannot bear the thought of someone losing their child. Just cannot bear it, in a way that feels like my skin is being peeled off.
Posted by: Menita at Aug 4, 2005 7:24:16 PM
Thank you for linking your breakfast time kitchen with the bigger world and for sharing in words.
I too cried when I heard the story on NPR and your post and all the comments let me know that there is a community that can absorb this experience and respond in some way.
Posted by: Susan at Aug 4, 2005 7:43:30 PM
This was beautifully written. My husband served in Iraq and every time I look at our son and think of that too...I don't have enought words, but thank you for saying them.
Posted by: Elizabeth at Aug 4, 2005 8:51:57 PM
Just beautiful. Thank you.
Posted by: R at Aug 4, 2005 9:30:58 PM
Some nights I lie awake in the wee hours, thinking about the mothers across the world who are lying awake wondering if her children will wake up in the morning. If bombs will destroy their houses or if they will be killed as they walk down the street. If her daughters will be raped before they're shot and if her sons will be forced to kill other mothers' children.
I don't think it's just the hormones.
Posted by: Moxie at Aug 4, 2005 9:44:11 PM
Came in from Thordora's site...
just wanted to say what i posted on another site - a heartfelt hug and a salute to these men who give up their lives for a cause that is not theirs!
Posted by: joker at Aug 4, 2005 11:50:49 PM
My daughter was due Sept 11th, 2001. She was my first child and I imagined waking up happy and expectant, trying all sorts of methods of induction... instead the tearful phone calls came at such an early hour and all of a sudden, I didn't want to bring a child into this world. I cried for her, apologized to her... and only later came to realize that the world has been this way for ages.
While my children have enriched my life, they have taken something away, too. I now live with the knowledge that if something were to happen to them, it would destroy me. I can't hardly listen to the news anymore. Where I would have clicked on a news story involving children, I now must refrain because I know the effect will be terribly negative.
I don't know how parents go on after their children die. It is my worst fear that I will some day find out.
Posted by: Jeannette at Aug 5, 2005 1:12:10 AM
Julie, what a beautiful post. Can I send a hyperlink to it or send the text (with credit and hyperlink, of course!) to my writers' list? Sorry to clutter up the comments; I would e-mail, but I don't know how.
Posted by: Eva at Aug 5, 2005 1:41:43 AM
Sure, Eva thanks.
Posted by: Julie at Aug 5, 2005 4:05:29 AM
Yes, I've been hit with those feelings too since becoming a mom. Even reading your post makes me want to hug my son tight. I also identified with what Sarah said, way up there toward the top - "Before, I would hear of some catastrophe and agree that it was terrible, what a shame, etc. Now I put my own baby in that place, just for a split second, and shudder. Having a baby really does change everything."
Sure, I used to feel bad when I heard sad news, but now - it sometimes takes my breath away, the power of those feelings. Great post, Julie - thanks.
Posted by: Rori at Aug 5, 2005 10:33:56 AM
You're spot on. It's something I'm not even sure fathers understand, and might explain why the vast majority of adult women oppose war. Those shudder moments occur all too frequently, from war reports to Amber Alerts and tragic accidents. Empathy takes on a whole new dimension when you're a mother.
Posted by: Kerry at Aug 5, 2005 12:44:30 PM
I found this from "This Woman's Work"
http://www.gsfp.org/
It struck me as relevant to your post, because you pointed out how hard the CNN reporter tried to get this family, in the midst of their grief, to say the PC thing, to not let them say that they are angry and mad about what has happened, and that they don't see it as necessary or inevitable.
Your first comment was by someone who is familiar with the military who bemoaned the fact that the country doesn't care. "America doesn't even CARE. Specific towns, yes, families, yes- but as a whole? No. America goes on her way and she forgets about her soldiers and troops at war." [trish].
She's right. I care, but I care in a distant way. No one I know well or love is affected by this war. I was actually shocked to hear that the mayor of Columbus, Ohio has a son serving in the military. In order to find people who are serving, I have to think of people like, my husband's, aunt's husband's son (her stepson). Or, "This woman's work's, daughter's, birthmother").
The intellectual/ruling/power/money elite are now very unlikely to have loved ones serving. That didn't used to be true. But it is now. And it changes the way the nation faces war.
bj
Posted by: bj at Aug 5, 2005 12:52:45 PM
My son is very aware of how I feel about war and the fact that he should be more terrified of me than going into combat.
I'm Canadian, I grew up watching the Vietnam war on television. My son knows better.
Posted by: Scully at Aug 5, 2005 1:29:22 PM
Just beautiful, Julie.
And to Aurora, and other military mothers and wives ... I have never felt that any of our troops have died dishonorably. I was and remain vehemently against this war, but all of the dishonor belongs at the feet of the current administration -- Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et al. (And, as another poster pointed out, the spineless Democratic legislators who marched in lockstep with them -- all save my congresswoman Barbara Lee, that is.) What breaks my heart is the 1800 dead American men and women (and the countless Iraqis as well) who have had to die as a consequence. I can't imagine how much bravery it must take for a soldier to fight a war they consider just, let alone one they consider unjust. I think there has been this unfortunate divide created in America, where if you do not believe in the war, this automatically labels you as anti-troops. Not so. I hurt for those kids who are dying so (in my opinion) needlessly. But honor? They have that in spades. Wish I could say that about our President and his advisors.
Posted by: Jo at Aug 5, 2005 3:45:26 PM
Oh, yes, Julie. Exactly. A lovely, heartbreaking and true post.
Posted by: Brooklyn Mama at Aug 5, 2005 3:54:19 PM
this made me cry.
Posted by: anonymousey at Aug 5, 2005 4:16:04 PM
WOW...that was really beautiful. It is a sad reminder to all of us that life is short...and never to take even the smallest things for granted.
I have been catching up on your story...and I just wanted to let you know that I think your story is inspirational and insightful. I am so glad that you finally got Your Charlie and that he is a healthy and happy baby boy:)
Posted by: justdawn at Aug 5, 2005 4:30:27 PM
Stunning post. And nice coasters.
Posted by: Wavery at Aug 5, 2005 5:03:15 PM
So well put. It brought tears to my eyes.
Posted by: chasmyn at Aug 5, 2005 9:20:16 PM
This is a country with nuclear capability and an undying hatred of other people. This is a country that kills its own people. That cannot be allowed in our world.
USA: nuclear capability; thousands of innocents killed, injured and poisoned from deployment of weopons
USA: undying hatred of "the enemy" and "evildoers," however such entities are defined on any given day
USA: death penalty legal, innocent people among the executed
And yet, it is all allowed, not just in our world, but in our backyards. War is the ultimate human tragedy: agression is always avoidable.
Posted by: Mollie at Aug 6, 2005 1:22:22 AM
Very touching post...
My little brother's best friend, is a Marine who is over in Iraq right now for the second time in a year. He is like a member of our family and each time we hear of a Marine dying we hold our breaths...
I cannot even begin to imagine the depths to which that fear goes when it is a parent waiting to hear that their son/daughter is okay. No one ever, EVER wants to think about their children dying and while I surely would be proud to have a child serving in our military by their and only their choice, it is something that I will/would NEVER EVER encourage otherwise!
I personally will not get into whether or not I agree with the war in Iraq... But I will say that when we're talking about those who serve for this country we must know that they do not choose the wars that they fight... they just fight. They are brave and strong and deserve our support. God bless them.
Posted by: Rachel at Aug 6, 2005 4:58:45 PM
I am one of those who generally doesn't seem to care. It's probably because I don't watch or read the news. I know, I'm completely uninformed. I leave that to my husband and my dad and others around me. I do it for self-preservation's sake. I can't do anything about the tragic news I see. I can't change that it happens, so I save myself from the hurt that I will feel when I watch it.
But I have felt what you're feeling, Julie. When I hear of a friend of a friend that killed themself, or I see a bum on the street, I remember what my mother used to say when she heard such news or saw such sights: "He was once someone's baby".
If we could see each other in that light even just some of the time we would have more love to give to one another. We are all just God's babies. Even these crazy people blowing themselves up in all parts of the globe were rocked by a gentle hand and before that they were conceived of in the Creator's mind.
Posted by: katie/fisherwife at Aug 6, 2005 5:12:38 PM
After all the beautiful comments it's hardly possible to add something. I'm a mother myself and I know what you talk about - our constant prayer is "catastrophes MY way please, just don't go into the pink room where my girls sleep!" I also agree that empathy is found in many non-parents, and egotism in many parents. But parenthood certainly makes you more aware of the "soft sides" of life.
As Israeli, I want to add that we felt very much threatened by Saddam Hussein. We were. I remember the sirens howling, I remember my girls going with gas masks to kindergarten, I remember storing water bottles and emergency kits. In 1991, I heard the rockets falling. My first child was just a baby then, sleeping in a plastic tent against the gas we feared.
In the end, as the second Gulf War showed, the threat was empty and price payed for showing this much too high. But Israel couldn't have overthrown Saddam's murderous regime - it would have pushed the whole region into war.
Setting out to fight Saddam Hussein was a morally right decision that saved many, many innocent lives of this brutal dictator and his mad cronies. He killed and tortured so many. Do you remember Kuwait? Do you remember the Kurds? He had to be stopped. Much earlier he should have been stopped.
We in Israel won't forget that the Americans and Britons understood the dangers of this regime where many other governments appeased and made their dealings. We are thankful and feel terrible about your loss of lives.
Every Israeli woman goes to the army herself, sends her husband until age 45 to reserve duty, and sends her daughters and sons to the army. We know the fears, we know loss. We have no choice, we want no choice. It's our country. It's small.
I don't think the aftermath of the war was handled the right way - I'm no military expert and I don't want to be understood as making a political statement. So many people dying - this shouldn't have gone so far. I have no idea how it might have been avoided.
I like and admire and respect Americans who use their democratic right to criticize their government. This is great. If I was an American, I guess I would find myself on that side.
But as Israeli, I can't dismiss what the lifting of the Saddam threat has been to us. So I say thank you to all of you.
I usually don't write anonymously but I'm a bit shy of posting this because it might hurt somebody's feelings. NO I didn't mean Americans should go out and get killed for our sake! I said I love them for their willingness to do so. I really do.
Posted by: de-lurking from Israel at Aug 6, 2005 7:22:01 PM
A beautiful post. I have had much the same experience.
And lately I've been adding anger and frustration to the mix. The father of my six year old son's best friend is leaving for a two year deployment in Iraq next week. Two years. I cry every time I think about he and his family.
The father joined the National Guards long before the Bush Administration...back when the Guards were to be the last line of defense ON US SOIL. He did not sign up for this, nor is he given the same level of benefits as an active duty soldier.
I think about his young wife, now the sole provider for this family. I think of his children (six and one), who will go more than two years without seeing their father. I think about the danger and horror that the father is about to face on a daily basis. I think about the people in Iraq without electricity, food and medicine.
My Grandfather fought in World War II, my father fought in Vietnam. I support our solders 100%, but I DO NOT support this war.
Posted by: Robin at Aug 6, 2005 11:04:39 PM
You know... I've never been a prouder Canadian than when our nation's leaders made the controversial decision, in the face of collosal international pressures led by the US, to stay OUT of Iraq.
Once again, Julie... your voice strikes a chord.
Posted by: Manuela at Aug 7, 2005 5:36:49 PM
Everyday I think of this. My husband was a Marine, and thankfully by 'was' I mean honorably discharged. Though to be perfectly fair, no Marine is EVER really 'was' they are Marines forever.
My husband's father was a Marine, he was a Marine, and part of him hopes that his son will carry on. My whole body and soul cries out against that - Please don't take my baby! Would I be proud anyway? You're damn right I would be. But I dread everyday my son grows older, I know everyday brings us one day closer to him being old enough to enlist. It would be a waking nightmare for me with no escape...
I also know that regardless of my opinion of this war or the shrub who started it (that sort of makes it obvious how I feel though doesn't it?), I support our men and women 100%. They didn't pick this war, and if it were my husband or my son, I would want that respect given to them.
Posted by: Angela at Aug 8, 2005 9:06:51 AM
I just learned a co-worker who once lived in Ohio was present at Augie's birth. She sat for the family's older children. She just realized today he was one of the dead Marines because she was out of the country last week. She watched him be delivered and now he's gone. It's astonishing. She keeps in touch with Augie's parents and is now frantically looking for the transcript of their CNN interview. As well as once being his parents' baby, Augie was also the dearly loved baby of a woman who hasn't seen him in years. The sadness continues to ripple.
Posted by: eliz at Aug 8, 2005 12:51:01 PM
yep.
*cry*
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