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01/14/2006

One and only

Skwish_1 We're driving home from the grocery store.  I'm riding the brake down the long hill into town.  Charlie's in the back crooning softly to his wooden toy.  As he shakes it, its loose-sliding beads make a pleasing marimba sound.

"I want another one," I say to Paul.

Paul doesn't answer.  "BaaaahHOHHHHHHwah!" Charlie sings, then abruptly crams most of the toy into his mouth, muting its seductive Latin rhythms considerably.

I try to explain.  "It's just that this one's so good."

"Well," says Paul after a moment, "I guess that's better than wanting another because this one's really not that great."

...

When you have one child, it's inevitable: sooner or later someone's going to ask you when you'll have another.  If you are infertile but polite, you will do one of the following:

  • Answer kindly but vaguely.  "We'd like another child, but it hasn't happened yet."
  • Answer kindly but candidly.  "We'd like another child, but it was very difficult for us to have little Legolas, so..."  [Trailing off significantly.]
  • Answer kindly but definitely.  "We feel our family is complete."

If, however, you are infertile but...well, me, you will do one of the following:

  • Provide in a monotone an unvarnished account of the ordeal you underwent to have little Legoland.  Include phrases like, "big old needle right up the coochie," "clots that looked a little like steak tartare," and "baby no bigger than a small canned ham."  Enjoy the questioner's discomfiture.
  • Take a long final drag off your menthol cigarette, then drop the butt on the pavement.  As you're grinding it beneath the toe of your shoe, mutter, "Never.  Can't stand the little bastards."
  • Squint into the distance, then suddenly point and yelp, "Hey! Over there!  James Frey's credibility!"  When the questioner whirls around incredulously to stare, make off with her wallet and her keys, cackling unrepentantly as you drive her car off into the lambent dusk.
...

Since I started wanting kids, I've always wanted two.  The prevailing assumption is that it's better for a child to grow up with a sibling.  To some degree, given our circumstances and our personalities, I share that assumption with respect to our family.  But it's not for any of the usual reasons.  To wit:

An only child runs the risk of becoming the sole focus of his parents' attention, so he might not understand from the outset that he's not the center of the universe.  I am happy to report that Paul and I do have interests outside of Charlie — for example, showering without interruption; eating food that requires the careful application of molars; and reading books that feature neither big red barns, a snowy day, nor sheep in either a jeep or a shop — and fully plan to continue to cultivate a life that Charlie can take part in rather than entirely dominate.

An only child doesn't learn to share or take turns as readily as a child with a sibling.  Dude, we have a cat.  The sharing lessons are well underway.

An only child will have sole responsibility for caring for his aging parents.  Dude, we have a cat.  A cat I am training to care for me in my dotage, to summon help should I become ill, to dispose of my remains in a fitting fashion once I leave this vale of tears.  Now all I have to do is figure out how to keep him from standing on my chest while I sleep, looking at me intently, licking his chops, positioning his nose under mine to check for respiration, gently testing my liver temperature with a single questing paw...

Um, where was I before I got all tangled up in this shroud?

Oh, yeah.  I remember.  An only child will be lonely.  Yeah, I'm pretty sure Charlie will get lonely down there in the basement, where he'll spend roughly 90% of his time.  (Of course we'll let him out sometimes.  You know, like the day the exterminator comes to spray.)  Poor kid, chained to the furnace, forlornly clanking his manacles, forced to seek the friendship of the garter snake I saw down there this summer, which is actually probably dead by now, now that I think of it.

Are you starting to suspect that I don't think much of these reasons?

Listen, people have all kinds of motivations for their decisions about family size.  I respect that.  I just resent the suggestion — often veiled, but sometimes not — that we should have another child because we owe it to Charlie, that we'd be selfish not to.  To my way of thinking, what we owe Charlie is a family where his parents are present, engaged, fulfilled, and happy, full stop.  When I think about having another child, that internal discussion isn't really about him.

Instead, my desire's about me, and about my relationship with Paul, and about how being a parent makes me feel, and about the greedy drive to experience more of the good moments that occur at every stage of childhood. 

And if I'm honest, I must admit it's also about the iron-willed determination to discount the bad moments.  It is perhaps telling that as Charlie howls at bedtime between intervals of check-and-comfort, I'm looking in my address book to see whether I still have my local clinic's number and consulting my calendar to see when the next open house is at a nearby adoption agency.

...

On the other hand.  We're lucky to have one, and I often wonder whether we should quit while we're ahead.  After all, it's indisputably easier not to have another.  Talk about easy: I don't even have to use birth control.  Hahahahaha.  Ohhhh.

On the hard days, I find myself repeating, Four more years till kindergarten.  If we have another child, my days won't be mostly my own again — and, yes, on a bad day I do think in those terms — for quite some time longer.

On the good days, which are greater in number, I think, How long till we can take Charlie snorkeling?  Try snowboarding?  Feed him dim sum in Chinatown?  We can still do those things, of course, with a second child, but I can't deny that I'm sometimes inclined to think of a second child as an impediment to fun during those first helpless years instead of an enhancement later on.

A 2004 study (PDF) examined the effects of having children on one's subjective happiness by comparing sets of identical twins.  Look, it would take a scientist to explain it — Happinessi j = β0 +β1 × partneri j +β2 × fertilityi j +β3 × Xi j + μj + εi j, for God's sake  — but the basic conclusion of the study was that while having one child does increase one's feeling of well being, having an additional child does not.  In fact, the study's findings indicate that having more than one child actually tends to  decrease women's happiness.  (Women with more than one child are still happier, however, than women who have none.  'Magine that, infertiles.)

It's enough to make you wonder.  I mean, when faced with such compelling evidence as fertilityi j = γ0 + γ1 × Zi j + γ2 × μ j + ηi j, who wouldn't?

Interestingly, this study also found that "contrary to the impression that children provide an important source of social, emotional and economic support for the elderly," having had children doesn't have a significant impact on the self-reported well-being of people aged 50-70.

Hey, they must have asked their cats to look after them, too.

...

All of these decisions are necessarily colored by our experience.  Before I had one, I knew I wanted two; before it was hard to have any, I was sure two would simply happen. 

Things have changed.  My ambivalence, when it surfaces now, has as much to do with the path we'd have to take to have another child as it does with the awareness that even a perfectly ordinary day of rearing one child can sap me absolutely dry.

I want to know what you think.

If you're infertile and don't yet have a child, have your feelings changed about how many you'd like?

If you do have only one child, has the route you've taken to parenthood  — infertility treatment, difficult pregnancy, protracted adoption process   â€” influenced how you feel about having another?

If you have more than one child, did the decision to have more than one come easily?

If you're an only child, how do you feel about your status as same?

And if you have a cat, how hard do you think it would be to teach one to salute at a graveside like John-John Kennedy in 1963? 

Because if I don't have another kid, I'm counting on ours to do it up nice.


The comments are back.  Read 'em!  They're great.

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Comments (329)

I wanted another one for all of the reasons most people give, but most of all, or rather, when it came right down to the deepest, most fundamental reason: because there was a palpable sense of someone missing in our home.
When we started wanting kids, we felt, weirdly for two completely zero-touchy-feely-mystically-inclined pragmatists, 2 absences in our house. We would be on vacation and miss two sets of arms reaching out to us. We missed their laughter. We missed them, without ever having met them.
When Polly was born, one of those spaces filled, but the other was still gaping open. Now that space may be on its way to be filled, and it if is, I know that will be it for us.
How did going through IF affect all of this? It made us financially much poorer. It almost destroyed our marriage before it strengthened it. When Polly was born, all I knew was that I never wanted to go through an IF treatment again. But. If it was between that and never filling that absent space, I knew that sooner or later I'd make my peace with ART. Once again.

Posted by: Menita at Jan 15, 2006 9:28:44 PM

Funny you should ask. I have 5 and was supposed to be done after 4 but changed my mind and was on the brink of changing my damn mind AGAIN (at 41 and with 5 of the little buggers). But I even just recently blogged about this ol' uterus being closed for business. Funny you should mention cats, too, because I think I was getting pretty close to being the human-collecting equivalent of the weird cat lady.

I don't know that I will ever FEEL done but I've cut my darn heart out of the decision making process and my uterus, my hips, my husband, and my financial consultant have agreed - we're done.

My age was a factor. How hard it's been to GET pregnant and CARRY the pregnancy (debilitating, yes, but I recognize that many would give up a LOT for a debilitating pregnancy like one of mine).

But the main factors were a few of the things you mention... we're ready to be out of Baby Land and move on to adventures with the bigger kids or - dare we dream - adventures for my husband and I where we leave the older and well-adjusted kids behind altogether.

Anyway, only child, part of a brood, I don't suppose any of that matters much as long as the kid has caring parents who bring him mush in the basement (enough to share with the snake even!)

Of course, now that I've read your essay, I'm totally panicking about my care in my golden years. You see, I'm allergic to cats!!!

Posted by: JustLinda at Jan 15, 2006 9:33:18 PM

Just a few years ago, when I thought all my bits were functional, I imagined that 3 was the perfect number of children for me. I have no idea why. It just seemed better than a pair, enough seatbelts in the backseat of a car etc.
But now, as someone who is oh so infertile, I would give anything, anything, for one. At this point I just want to be a mother. Don't care how many I get to mother.
ninaB

Posted by: ninaB at Jan 15, 2006 9:46:32 PM

After 104 days in the NICU...after almost losing our son too many times to count...I know I will never physically bear another child. I cannot survive that again. Right now, we feel complete and happy - an entire family unit. If we some day feel that we need another child, we will have to investigate other ways of bringing one into our family. For now, we are three and content.

Posted by: amy at Jan 15, 2006 9:46:45 PM

We have two, and now we're done (my husband has another, so he has a total of three). We are both close to our siblings; that was a big factor in wanting more than one. Our decision about kids was always more about timing than number -- I knew I wanted two, and close together. He wanted to wait a bit longer between them, but I was afraid I would lose my nerve...

We have two cats, too, so we are well provided-for in our old age, clearly.

Posted by: cori at Jan 15, 2006 9:50:02 PM

I'm looking more for grandchildren at this point, but I've always regretted that I only had one child. I never experienced infertility--but I spent 9 years trying to hold on in a dysfunctional marriage. Then it was years struggling as a single mother, not exactly the best time for another child. I finally re-married, but not until I was 48.

Now, on the edge of menopause a natural child is probably a long shot. I'm not sure if my husband and I have the patience for a toddler, and the thought of parenting a teenager again is a deterrent. But the regret is still there.

I have a lovely daughter, she's on her own and working, finished with school. I wistfully look at my friend's grandchildren and raise three cats. I'm not taking chances.

Posted by: MamaPajama at Jan 15, 2006 9:58:55 PM

I'm not there with the having kids yet, but I was one of two, and because of a miscarriage and because I was such a hellion, there are seven years between us (I'm oldest). I know several other siblings with this sort of age difference, and on the whole, not only did the second child not make the first child less bored or less lonely, but instead make the older child miserable (and vice versa). Only now, at 25 and 17 are we able to be civil for lengths of time, the limit of that being something like three days. What I'm saying is, if I 1) have kids, and 2) have more than one, I will do it much closer together than my parents. Likewise for you, whatever you're going to do, I'd do it sometime soon. Good luck with your decision.

Posted by: Staci at Jan 15, 2006 10:01:07 PM

I am single and never had any reason to believe I wouldn't get pregnant so I tried via IUI. At Cornell, actually, around the same time you were there, Julie. Ten IUIs later (seven natural, two Clomid, one injectibles) I decided I was done and adopted a baby girl from Guatemala who's been home almost eight months. I still get teary when I think that if I had gotten pregnant I wouldn't have this daughter. And I'm not usually the teary type. I was surprised that after she came home I quickly decided that I would love to have another in a couple of years. I think I would probably have to win the lottery to support two, though, so I will consider our little family of mom, baby and two cats to be complete. For now anyway....

Posted by: cobblehil at Jan 15, 2006 10:04:18 PM

I had my first child nearly a year ago. Luckily we had no problems conceiving, though gestational diabetes and ultimately an emergency c-section complicated things a bit. Like you, even before I got pregnant I knew that I ultimately wanted more than one. I adore our daughter and the joy she brings every day to us -- still, the idea of having a second somehow feels right, like squaring things up. Perhaps because of the ease with which our first came into our lives, we have no doubt we'll start trying for our second soon. Julie, I wish you luck in this, whatever you decide. From what I read here, it seems there will be deep joy in your life if it remains the three of you or more.

Posted by: laura gf at Jan 15, 2006 10:07:06 PM

I had my first, in very bad shape, and in the NICU and swore I could never go through it again. In time, the desire to have another trumped that. The decision was far from easy. I had so many damn complications with the first. It was such drama. My g-d, we almost lost him. And this time around, I would know what I was putting on the table. What a stupid, heady risk. But, the desire, coupled with extremely competent medical care overwhelmed all of that. My second was robust and healthy (due to incredible medical care) and we were done. Then, my princess found her way in. She's a miracle and I love her. Obviously, now I think three is the way to go. But mostly, I see my kids, with their siblings, and it makes my soul absolutely soar. I didn't have the 2nd *for* my first, I had the 2nd for largely selfish reasons. But seeing them together, growing up together, learning from each other is absolutely incredible. I simply can't imagine one without the other. Those boys did need eachother. When I see #2, I don't think of all the fun #1 could be having without him around. I think of how much #1's life has been enriched by being a sibling. Phenomenal, those kids. They change us so fundamentally.

Posted by: Brandee at Jan 15, 2006 10:07:37 PM

I used to think I wanted two children. We bought the car and the house with the yard with 2 children in mind.

Now, after more than 4 years of infertility, I am not looking at it in terms of the number of children I want or will have. I just want to be a mother. To one or five. It doesn't matter right now.

I can't see past this first hurdle well enough to see the second or third. I want my first baby.

Whether will be my last will remain to be seen after it safely reaches the world outside the confines of my loins.

Posted by: Stephanie at Jan 15, 2006 10:11:01 PM

That whole close-in-age or farther-apart argument doesn't fly with me, either. My oldest two are less than 2 years apart and were evil to each other all their growing-up years. It wasn't until child #1 left for college that they became friends. So close in age isn't any assurance of friendship. On the other hand, I have a 9 year old and a 5 year old who play together BEAUTIFULLY. Who would have thought that such an age difference would lend itself to a close friendship?

A sibling doesn't necessarily assure one of a friend.

Posted by: JustLinda at Jan 15, 2006 10:17:24 PM

I can't believe I'm actually going to type this, but...

I want another one. Desperately. Which has taken me completely by surprise because I've only had the first one for five weeks. I fully expected her to fill the hole in my heart, but it turns out she's only made me realize and appreciate what I've been missing all the more.

So yeah, go figure...

Posted by: deborah at Jan 15, 2006 10:18:07 PM

After hanging out in baby/pg focused chat rooms for several years, and after having done this a few times myself, I feel like I can safely say that fertile or infertile, the feeling torn about having another child (whether it's #2 or #4) is pretty universal.
It's just like you say, on a good day, you want another angel peacefully sleeping. On a bad day, you think there is no way I can do another kid, I am not sure I can raise the one I have to adulthood without one of us losing our sanity!
I pretty much felt this way even when I got pregnant with #2 and #3..and by this point there was no going back. (Lucky for them!)
I am sure that isn't helping you with your decision at all, but I just wanted you to know that you're not alone with the way you feel.

Posted by: beth at Jan 15, 2006 10:19:35 PM

I am stuck on this one myself. I always intended to have more than one, hoping to prevent the sense of isolation that troubled me as an only child in a rural area. A second reason for having a two surfaced when I married another only child. Given that we have no siblings and very little extended family between us, our child will have no blood relatives when we die. It's a sad thought. However. We have a spectacular 1 year old and as the hypothetical second child becomes an actual possibility, I'm just not feeling it. Maybe it's because my family paradigm only involves 3 people and that I have no further wishes for qualities in a child than what my daughter has. Maybe it's because I know that neither of us would be able to draw from experience in dealing with sibling disputes or whatever else families with more than one child have to deal with. I assume there are... things.

Basically, I am left with the sense that I am choosing between my own preference and the best interest of my kid*. It's not that I believe that being an only child is in and of itself a negative thing. I do think that an only child requires more of her parents and community in terms of companionship and socialization than a child with a sibling does, and not all parents and communities can provide the extra support. In our case I think it is probably safe to assume that my daughter will spend more time alone than I would like if she does not have a sibling. That said, Julie, you certainly do have a point about the importance of parents who have what they need as well. As I said, I'm stuck. I look forward to hearing what others have to say.

*I am not making the suggestion, veiled or otherwise, that this applies to anyone but me. I am only speaking of my own circumstances.

Posted by: Zara at Jan 15, 2006 10:24:25 PM

Going thru ART has turned my head to mush and my heart to mulch. Sometimes I'm convinced the only reason I want two is because it appears I can't have two. Is it because having a second baby seems to be so unattainable that I want it even more just to prove I can or am I really trying to fill in the missing part of what I thought would be a nice sized family of 4.

Even harder is currently we are building a house. The plans were designed around our now lost pregnancy and we have our son's room and a baby's room. Will I ever be able to look at that room as anything other than The Baby's Room if we should never have another? It's too painful to even contemplate. Time is slowly running out and so are our options and I desperately want that 2nd child.

Posted by: DD at Jan 15, 2006 10:28:22 PM

delurking, as someone who had her second child five months ago; the first is 3.5 years old.

fertility was not an issue, so i don't know how difficulties having the first would have influenced my choice. i do know that i was unsure how many kids i wanted until the first was about 8 weeks old, at which point i could not bear the thought that he would be my only, and therefore last, baby. (this shocked me, incidentally, having never been especially maternal, and having also not been especially interested in infants during my entire life).

Having two is rough going sometimes, and i certainly agree with you and others that the decision is about the parents - it is such a crap shoot whether little kids get along with their siblings (like me and my sister), or not (like my husband and his brother).

But, two days ago, my oldest was about to enter full-on whine mode over some gummy bears, and i was trying to think of a creative response while holding his baby sister on my lap, when i realized that
1) she thought his whining was hilarious, and had started laughing out loud at him
and
2) this made him forget to whine and start laughing...

the jury is still way out on how they will get along over the long run, but at least sometimes, they already make one another's day.

Posted by: Monisha at Jan 15, 2006 10:32:37 PM

I'm an only child. I was adopted at that. My parents were in their early forties when I was born and are now in their late sixties.

Growing up an only child had pros and cons. I was the center of my parents' attention. They were both able to attend all of my ballet recitals, softball games, school plays, etc. There weren't any other snotty-nosed kids running around to distract them from ME! On the other hand, there wasn't anybody around to distract them from me. I was, and am, the center of their world. It's tough having to be the focus of all their attention/hopes/wisdom, etc. all the time.

And, now, as my parents are getting older, I have a lot of pressure to be there for them all the time. There are questions about investments, taxes, retirement, health... There's dealing with them being forgetful and not as smart as they used to be... Lucky for me, I have a great husband and extended family who let me lean on them for such stuff.

Talking long-term, though, growing up an only child gave me a lot of independence and taught me how to entertain myself. Not bad traits. Still, I wish I had a brother or sister. Learning how to factor in other people (aka a husband!) was tough. I think that with a sibling, you learn some of life's little lessons earlier. (How to play well with others, for instance.)

I could ramble about this for a long time...

Posted by: Shannon at Jan 15, 2006 10:33:53 PM

I fall into one category as an only child, but I am not in the others because I am childless by choice, which is why I read often, but comment infrequently. So, to answer at least one of your questions (and this will be long, sorry), I loved being an only child. I saw my friends and the tumultuous relationships that they had with their siblings and thanked my lucky stars. I love to read and had no problem keeping myself occupied. My mother was the oldest of eight, so I had aunts and uncles within 6, 8 and 10 years who grew up with me and I have 17 cousins, so I was never lonely. Trust me, I learned to share.

Posted by: Melissa at Jan 15, 2006 10:34:35 PM

I have always wanted a lot of children (more than 3) Then we tried to have one. Not as easy as it sounds (as you know!) After failed IUI's and IVF's, we were told we would never have a biological child. Surprise! We got pregnant. I was so joyously happy I said I would Never ask for another thing...but after about a year, I REALLY wanted another. Almost as much as I wanted the first. I tend to obsess about things and I obesessed about a second child. We chose adoption rather than do the whole infertility thing again, and I am so happy we did. I have a beautiful son and daughter who I loe equally and we are starting the adoption process for a third...
Lisa

Posted by: Lisa at Jan 15, 2006 10:38:53 PM

This one intrigues me. I do and I don't. I am one of three children, my brother is great just wild. My sister has issues upon issues but I need her. I love them both so much I cant think what not having them would be like. Husband is a only child. Hates the idea of baby#2. Says my darling girl will have everything she ever dreamed of as an only child. I want to adopt a baby boy. I will not ever carry another child because trying to get pregnant was hell and I don't ever want that route again.... but #2... sometimes makes me sad to think my daughter will be a only child and not have a brother or sister to lean on in hard times!!
Good luck Julie!! I know it's hard to decide which way to go!!


Dawn in ky

Posted by: dawn at Jan 15, 2006 10:39:15 PM

Not so long, abridged my post, forgot to take the "long" comment out.

Posted by: Melissa at Jan 15, 2006 10:39:55 PM

Too bad — I would have liked to read more!

Posted by: Julie at Jan 15, 2006 10:41:53 PM

Second and definitely final child is nine weeks old tomorrow. Today was a hard day; the toddler nearly got offered on eBay. But it's too late to send one back. I've gone and bonded with them both now.

Posted by: Yatima at Jan 15, 2006 10:42:41 PM

As I sit here recovering from a tubual ligation, I can confidently say 2 is it for our family. We have 2 healthy, happy children. What more could we ask for? ........

Posted by: gretchen at Jan 15, 2006 10:42:43 PM

I got my knickers in a twist Friday over several pregnancy announcements, yet I haven't even made an appointment with my RE to see if #2 is a possibility, so I guess I haven't sorted this out either. The very idea is just so exhausting. I know that if we do have another, it won't be for the benefit of #1 -- I think he'd love being the one and only -- it will be for a purely selfish reason: to have a backup, basically.

Posted by: DoctorMama at Jan 15, 2006 10:43:33 PM

I always wanted 4. After we had numvber three, during the labour in fact, I said "No more!", and really believed it for about three years. I was fed with being on call 24 hours a day, and with five years of breastfeeding, and with the broken nights.

Then it started again, the little niggling feeling. I'd done some further training, and worked for a couple of years when the feeling started to grow. Alas, though my husband is willing, my body, it seems, is not.

I can't even pretend I'm reconciled to this, yet I have three lovely children who are really not hard work any more, and I can't help wishing. The longer it goes on though, the bigger the gap between my third and the next would* be, and more I wonder if it would be such a good idea.

But then every child is born into the family they're born into. There are no 'shoulds' or 'oughts'. There's no law to say how close together siblings should be born, or even if at all. Some kids are born into families of 9 in the Kashmiri mountains or in Malawi or in France. Some kids are born into much smaller families. That's just the way it is.

*'would' features highly however

Posted by: e at Jan 15, 2006 10:46:10 PM

Thank you for asking these questions, as I've really enjoyed reading other women's responses/thoughts on the matter.
I have a little boy now, almost 18 months old, who spent his first 3 months in the NICU and, like another commenter above, almost lost him too many times. However, my hubby and I have always planned on 3. We both come from 2 kid families and figure 3 might mean more teamwork and less competition (I'm not ruling out delusion on our part, though). We're trying, now, for #2 and I'm scared - so scared - of repeating what happened with #1. However knowing what I do about how things went with #1 gives me an edge to prevent those things the 2nd time around. They may happen, yes, but they may not. If they do, we'll get through them just like we did the first time. Right now they're over and we're stronger for it and have a beautiful little boy to show for it. I can't wait to have another, and hopefully another after that.

I must admit that I felt the desire to have more pretty early after we got #1 home, and the understanding of the mentality of women to stay home and have babies again and again. It's very addictive, this motherhood thing. ;)

Posted by: Kelly at Jan 15, 2006 10:46:13 PM

I'm infertile and don't have a child yet. I was always pretty sure I wanted one and definitely sure I wanted one at a time. However, in order to get one I have to risk ending up with two, three or even more - and simultaneously at that. How's that for irony?

Posted by: Liz at Jan 15, 2006 10:49:34 PM

I'm an only.

I have no memories of ever wanting a sibling, though I do have memories of hearing people discuss the reasons only children were all evil, selfish, emotional cripples and thinking "what BS!"

My parents handled it well; in many ways you and Paul sound similar to them. They never made me feel like I was "less," and VERY importantly, they never felt like that had to "make it up to me" by getting over-involved in my play or over-indulging me.

I just want to say that I agree strongly with your feeling that more kids are NOT about "giving him a sibling." I hear that one a LOT, and I always feel that it's a huge weight to put on a child -- that you have to have another to Give Him A Sibling. Do it for you, do it for your family, but don't do it because of some nostalgia for your own sibling relationship or fantasy of best friends.

What I try to explain to others is that if you have a sibling, you don't know what it is like to grow up an only child, in the same way that your child will never know what it is like to grow up with a sibling. And you think that your child is missing something because you compare their childhood to *yours*. But I can tell you as an only who has two children that *I* compare my childhood to *theirs* and think about what things might like for each of them if they were an only. Because that's what *I* know, and what *I* think of as normal, as "The way I grew up."

Posted by: Sara at Jan 15, 2006 10:49:54 PM

If you have more than one child, did the decision to have more than one come easily?

We have three boys. The first caught us by surprise, the 2nd came after overcoming some (minor) 2ndary infertility, and the 3rd was both planned *and* uncomplicated.

After #1, I knew I wanted more.

After #2, I knew I wanted more.

After #3 .... I'm not so sure anymore. There are complex arguments both pro and con. I think that this "not sure" point probably occurs for everyone -- whether after 0, 1, 2, 3, etc. just depends.

Posted by: Rachel H. at Jan 15, 2006 10:52:07 PM

Oh, and are you sure that cat is not a liger? What are you feeding boy and cat?

Posted by: e at Jan 15, 2006 10:52:27 PM

I keep thinking that I'm fine with the one, although I had always pictured two. But I can't quite get myself to take the birth control pills.

What has changed for me is my feeling about adoption. We know we wouldn't go back through ART, and I don't think we'd try domestic infant adoption again. Paul wants to adopt internationally, I want to adopt an older child from the U.S. That decision, if it comes to it, is still years away.

Those sheep, they're also on a ship, although I personally preferred them in the shop.

Posted by: Christine at Jan 15, 2006 11:05:11 PM

I am nearly 39 and currently preg with #1 after 6 IVF's. I would like to have at least 1 more.
I am already thinking about what I'm going to do after this pregnancy.

I have 3 frosties on ice... do I run with those and if I have no luck, try another fresh cycle?

Should I try a fresh cycle first, because the longer I wait the older my eggs get?

How long after this pg will I have to wait before my body is ready to start again??.... will I (or my eggs, more specifically) be too old???

Where will we get the money to cycle again, if I'm not working?

questions, questions...

Posted by: labia lady at Jan 15, 2006 11:05:54 PM

I think you know when you're really done.

Started out not wanting kids ever, changed my mind and eventually convinced the husband that one would be okay, with the possibility of a second left open. Had a miscarriage but no real fertility problems.

After child #1, I was just so in love with her, yet time was speeding by and the baby time I'd so looked forward to was already over in some respects. I really wanted to do it again, just to be able to experience it once more. Kind of like wanting to ride a rollercoaster again.

On a more pragmatic level, my husband and I are both fairly close to our siblings, and I wanted #1 to have that kind of relationship, and someone to grow old with, someone she could talk to about us, to know her history, and share the burden of dealing with us as we get old. However, two was always the maximum household number under consideration.

#2 was conceived a lot faster than I would have predicted, and while having two is very hard somedays, it's also easier in many ways the second time around. I adore them both, but I'm done having babies. While I sometimes get nostalgic about their baby days, I have zero desire to go through sleep deprivation, long term nursing, etc. again, and my husband went and got a vasectomy. Maybe if I'd started younger, or were married to someone who wanted more kids, I'd have gone for three, but two is plenty for us as it is.

I don't have infertility or NICU experience, but I can see how that would make you leery of rolling the dice again. I did have some complications with the second pregnancy,and the earlier miscarriage gave me a taste of that kind of stress and fear.

I can say that the scary or difficult parts recede in your memory and in the overall timeline of parenthood, don't last so long. I can't imagine not having #2 now, and in the long run he's worth whatever it cost to get him.

Posted by: Andrea at Jan 15, 2006 11:12:13 PM

i am infertile and we have one. i steadfastly said NO NO NO to even trying for another one after a difficult conception, pregnancy and a NICU stint. Now.... i have having amnesia and i too want to experience those wee baby moments again. or maybe i don't. your post has actually helped me feel better about things since as far as everyone else in the world is concerned, i am happy with our family as it is thank you.

thank you.

Posted by: jenB at Jan 15, 2006 11:21:33 PM

Re: poignant feline send-off. Not here... I'm fairly sure OUR demonic cat would try and hop into the casket before it was lowered in order to sample a little dry-aged hominid tartare.

Re: another baby. Like most, we're torn on this (no IF issues here, so I'm sure it's a different situation in many ways). Our current kid's wonderful, a second would strain our finances severely, husband's leery of disrupting the current family dynamic. Also, a LOT of multiple-child parents I see in Target have this awful, shell-shocked look, like the next strategically-lobbed Goldfish to the chest will blow them to smithereens.

But... but. Even on BAD days, my heart hurts when I think about only going through this ONCE. Making my child laugh. Smelling his hair. His indignant squeaks when I won't let him have another lick of ice cream. Since only having one IS a distinct possibility, I know I should feast with abandon on every second of my son's baby- and childhood. But lately, even the sweetest moments also carry the pang that this, too will end someday. There will be a last time that I'll have to get up and comfort him in the middle of the night... that he'll jabber excitedly to see me... that he'll sit on my lap. I suppose having another will only delay the inevitable. But god, how I want to.

Posted by: Jul at Jan 15, 2006 11:21:40 PM

Oh Julie, this post spoke to me on so many levels. I think about this issue 24/7.

I am lucky to have one and he makes me SO happy and grateful to be a mom, but having one does not complete me. I actually wrote a post about exactly this issue about a month ago. Since I just had another m/c its on my mind even more, so will probably a focus of my writing over the coming months as well.

On of my issues re: only kid crap is that I grew up with a sibling but have been an only for the last 12 years since his death. The sibling relationship is one of the defining relationships of my life and even though I lost him, I can't imagine never having him and never sharing that experience. Who else besides a sibling understands how screwed up your parents are? There is significant comfort in knowing that someone else knows your parents for the screwballs that they really are (said lovingly and affectionately of course.) I also hate the level of responsibility I feel in being an only since my brother's death.

It took us 3.5 years of IF to have my son. From the minute I found out he was a singleton pregnancy, I've obesessed about how I'm going to have more. 3 more IVFs and 2 m/c later, and I'm frustrated, angry, resentful that IF has taken over my life since 1997. Why does it have to be so f-ing hard?

But I'm determined that I WILL have another child, somehow, some way, whether with my 6 frozens or through adoption. Ideally I'd like 2 more, which is one of the reasons I have stuck with IF treatment (DH only wants 1 more but would be willing to risk possibility of twins. If we adopt one, he won't go for a 3rd.)

So I stay on this damn rollercoaster even though every single loss just rips the scabs off all the old wounds and lets the pain gush out again. Because completing my family (according to MY definition of complete) matters to me more than the heartbreak and the turmoil caused by all this damn drama.

P.S. Am horribly allergic to cats, so am screwed on that front as well.

Posted by: Leggy at Jan 15, 2006 11:24:11 PM

OhJulie, I feel you've opened a can of worms here. Ok, let's see.

I want to know what you think.

If you're infertile and don't yet have a child, have your feelings changed about how many you'd like? When I was still infertile, balancing on the fine line between madness and insanity I wanted 2, maybe even 4, because damnit, it was the family I had always dreamed of, and dreams are free.

If you do have only one child, has the route you've taken to parenthood — infertility treatment, difficult pregnancy, protracted adoption process — influenced how you feel about having another? The idea of having another child scares me. At what point am I willing to sacrifice things now to try to have another child? Do I really want Sophie to see her mother cry over yet another miscarriage? Do I want to have to explain miscarriage? Or broken dreams? How much money do I want to flush down the toilet again trying to get pregnant again? How much money that could be given to Sophie's education funds or holidays abroad or all those good things I have ALWAYS dreamed of doing with her?

If we were to adopt, which is always, always an option for us, are we ready to have to explain all the hurt involved to Sophie? To expose her to family's predjudices, to society as a whole and how it views adoption? At what point do you decide, ok, so let's make this more complicated than life already is just so we can have another child? I guess I feel really shy about it all. It took so long for her to get here...I just can't feel ready yet.

And as for only children being spoiled and feeling like the centre of the universe, eh, I guess it's the way you parent. I know lots of really kind, empathetic only children who spend lots of time with other kids via playcentres and clubs but yes, they don't share their parents' time very well. And why should they? They ARE the centre of their parents' universes. I guess I wouldn't mind indulging Sophie in that luxury. Time with my parents was never something I had. Their love was never something I had. She deserves at least that much.

And if you have a cat, how hard do you think it would be to teach one to salute at a graveside like John-John Kennedy in 1963? I've seen cats raise paws for treats so I imagine if one were to start early and the treats were really, really good it'd totally be possible. Hrrrm. Maybe I should get another cat.

Maybe it's a time thing. Like maybe when you've just had a rough pregnancy, rough birth, rough start to life with a FTT baby with severe GERD and delayed gastric emptying life with another baby seems more like torture than bliss. I look at her and feel complete. She is my greatest achievement and her health issues will always be there.

A second child doesn't tug at the heartstrings the same way it did while ttc, or even while pregnant. That dream is long gone. Yet another price to pay. Motherhood is heartbreaking at times.

Posted by: Jen P at Jan 15, 2006 11:26:23 PM

Well, our IVF led to triplets, so it does seem selfish to wish for any more babies. We have 2 girls and a boy, and those inquisitive people (family, friends, strangers...) usually assume that our family must be complete.
And yet, I have often wished for another baby, and that dream is still present after 5 1/2 years. We would not do ART again, and probably we are done. But it's not a free choice, it's secondary infertility. And I dream of a "normal" single pregnancy (Ha!) and birth of a healthy full-term baby, and of our trio becoming the older siblings as they all grow up together.

I continue to feel those regret pangs at every stage of our children's development that passes, every time we pass on outgrown clothing or toys, every time I look at their baby pictures, every time I see other babies and young children. I really do miss the baby, toddler and preschooler stages. And when kindergarten is over I know I'll miss it too, it's a wonderful stage.

Most of the time I think I have resolved those feelings, and am okay with being a mom to school-age children now. But I am still drawn to read blogs about infertility, pregnancy, parenting, and secondary infertility, so I'm still thinking about these questions some of the time.

I agree with Beth that these mixed feelings and regrets are probably universal. It must be hard for every couple who is deciding whether to have a child, whether to have a second, third or fourth, whether to actively pursue pregnancy or adoption, or whether to simply wait and see, and hope for a miracle. And for those who are deciding not to have any children, or any more children.

I guess that's what so many parents and grandparents mean when they say "enjoy them while they are babies, they grow so quickly." It's a cliche but it's very true, and very heartfelt for me.

Best wishes to all those who are TTC or to adopt, and to all those who are choosing not to. It's not easy, whichever path we choose.

Posted by: SheilaC at Jan 15, 2006 11:31:15 PM

None so far, but I'm only going through the whole shebang once. My main reason is that we could offer one child so much more than we could offer two. Financially, emotionally, whatever. I want to show our child/ren things that I never saw when I was a kid, and I worry that if we have more than one kid, it might be hard for us to afford that. I'm also scared that we'll have a favourite and will be as cunty about it as my husband's mother.

Saying this I dream of boy/girl twins, but I really don't want to go through this again.

Posted by: Sassy at Jan 15, 2006 11:31:36 PM

Infertile here, with twins through IVF. I definitely want another kid, but vacilate (sp?) between feeling guilty for wanting another when I'm so lucky to have my girls and wanting to experience it all over again. Then there are the days when I think, "1.5 years till preschool!" and enjoy sleeping all night long and having my boobs for myself and my husband. Then, on other days, my kids are so delightful and fun that I see myself having an entire litter. Maybe I need medication?

The cost of another IVF (which is less likely to work since we only have 4 frozen embryos) is definitely holding us back. I do know that I will not do another full round of IVF. If we do a FET and use all our embryos and it doesn't work, we're done, barring a suprise pregnancy.

I have limited experience with only children, but for what it's worth: I have a close friend who is an awesome person and not at all adversely affected by being an only child. And I have an uncle who lost both his parents and essentially his entire family. It makes me sad that he doesn't have a sibling, but since he has friends and cousins and in-laws, I'm not sure why I think a sibling would be better. Maybe because they could share memories of their parents?

Posted by: Linda at Jan 15, 2006 11:32:06 PM

I'm one of three and often thought that three would be perfect. Then I lost two pregnancies before I had my son and that pregnancy nearly killed me and him (pre-eclampsia and a lousy OB). After that, I thought there was no way I could ever do that again and according to my father, who is an only child, that being an only child wasn't the awful stigma that others would like you to believe. Then I developed a rather severe case of hypothyroidism and was told there was really wasn't any chance of my having anymore anyways. Ok, fine.

About a year after that my Endo shocked me with the news that if I wanted another I had a small window of opportunity and that window was closing. It made me rethink everything, I cried and I worried and then I suddenly realized that if I didn't really want another then this news wouldn't have me tied up in knots. My daughter just turned 10 months old.

It was a hard pregnancy and I held my breath the entire time, but I had excellent care this time and we she was healthy and I was mostly healthy when she entered this world. She is it however, I count my blessings that I have two healthy children and that I'm here to see them both.

I sometimes wish things were different, that I could have had easy pregnancies and not have had to worry and think and panic throughout my second. I was packing up some baby clothes to give away today and it was a lot harder then I expected. In my mind I know that having more is not an option and that I'm grateful to have the two that I do, but sometimes my heart doesn't listen. So no, the decision to have another didn't come easily and neither did the decision to stop.

Posted by: Erin at Jan 15, 2006 11:32:48 PM

Three. That was my magic number. Ofcourse I am the oldest of three, my Mom is one of three, my Dad one of three. Three was the rule. My husband had other ideas. Four. And since he was the youngest of four that seemed to make sense for him. I told him that we would get to three and then decide about the fourth.

I am now overjoyed after seven years of infertility to have my one gorgeous girl. And I would be so happy to be given the opportunity to have two. But I wonder if I should put my body through all I went through, and possibly endanger my life, or shorten it, thus shortening my time with my daughter.

My daughter is only five months old, but I struggle with whether or not we will go through it all again, almost daily. My RE pretty bluntly told me at a follow-up appointment last month that I had better decide soon.

No pressure here.

What I am trying to do is remind myself to enjoy the here and now. I wasted so many years of my life while chasing my dream of a child that I don't want to waste any moments with her now that she is here.

My dream was to have three. I am so blessed to have one.

The rest will just fall into place.

Posted by: Amanda at Jan 15, 2006 11:41:12 PM


If you do have only one child, has the route you've taken to parenthood — infertility treatment, difficult pregnancy, protracted adoption process — influenced how you feel about having another?xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Yes. We too had to use fertility technology to get our son. After that, we (ok, she) had to endure a troublesome pregnancy. Pregnancy Induced Hypertension, which lead to twice per week midwife visits, bedrest (24 hour at the end), and an induced birth that very nearly included an emergency C section. Post birth fun included a blue baby that needed a shot of Narcan to remember to breathe again(thanks, Morphine!), an inability to suck that required an additional 2 days in the hospital (but now we know what gavage (sp?) feedings are. Whoo Hoo), and the best for last, a PDA surgery to correct a mild heart condition at age 3 months.

Given all of this, we feel damned lucky to have the boy we've got. Do we want another,? Yeah, but if it doesn't happen, we'll deal with it with much less stress than if we had no baby in our house. If anything, the whole process makes me (the Mr.) less insistant on having a second kid.

As far as the decision to have another kid, I (the Mr.) came from a family of 3 siblings. Ms. was raised as an only until age 16, then her parents adopted 2 more kids, but her formative years were as an 'only'.

I think that kids with siblings tend to be a bit more 'scrappy'. When it isn't a given that you'll get the prize fom the cereal box, I think it brings out vertain qualities that are helpful in life. Obviously, this is all specific to each kid and family, but in general terms, I think kids raised with siblings are likely to be a bit scrappier, with more grit.

The above are just opinions. What follows is fact:

1).
We have a fridge full of gonal-f pens (what a rip off these pens are, as opposed to the old beloved ampules of 2 years ago!)that we'll start to deploy this week. If it works, great, if not, well, at least we have 1 kid already, a kid we love, a kid that sleeps until 9 or 10 am most days, a kid that smiles with the slightest provocation. So yeah, if the circus of gonal-f, trigger shots with impossibly long needles and endless appts. with the RE doesn't pan out, we'll be OK.

2).
You don't train cats. They train you.
Word.

Posted by: vespadaddy Dan at Jan 15, 2006 11:45:20 PM

I'm a mother of a 2 year old, no infertility problems but old enough to know the decision has to become pregnant has to be pretty soon or its not going to happen. I mostly think one child is just right, our family feels complete and I'm too selfish to go through the sleepless night bit again. But then I have moments of gut-wrenching terror where I think if I lose my daughter how will I cope, I need a spare. I do realise how daft this reasoning is though.

Posted by: Din at Jan 15, 2006 11:48:23 PM

I didn't have infertility issues (the opposite as I conceived naturally just after I'd been told I had PCOS and wasn't ovulating). However, I have chronic health problems, so we had reluctantly decided not to have children for that reason.

Instead, we got our miracle boy. But it was hard, hard work as I was sick, exhausted and just plain miserable for my entire pregnancy, which ended at six months with a 27-weeker who spent 73 days in NICU before coming home.

It took me a while, but I've finally worked out what to say when I get 'that question'.

Emotionally, I would love to have another child, but for practical health reasons, we have no plans to have another.

That makes me sad to think about sometimes, but I'm struggling to cope now as it is.

And as others have said, I'm also afraid of another bad pregnancy and another premmie. I'm almost 37 now, so the odds of more problems are significant.

The short answer is that it'll be just one for us and we'll do all we can to make sure he gets the social interaction and other things he'd have with siblings. He goes to day care 3 times a week and loves it, so he gets to learn to deal with other kids, share etc there. (And I get a chance to sleep and recharge while he's away!)

Posted by: Kerry at Jan 15, 2006 11:48:56 PM

Have one child through foster care adoption.

I desperately want another.

1st reason is for me..I missed the first 9 years of her life and everything that goes with growing up. I would like to experience the baby/toddler/young child years with a child.

2nd..she is used to being around kids, she wants siblings, she hates being an only child.

So for both of us I think it is the right choice, I just have to figure out now how to make it happen.

Posted by: cubbiegirl at Jan 15, 2006 11:49:45 PM

Much like the Sara who posted above, I am an only child who doesn't feel that she's missing something by not having siblings. My Mom and I barely survived my delivery, and back in 1977, that was it. The doctor cautioned my parents that my Mom likely wouldn't survive another pregnancy, so it's just me.

(No kids of my own yet. Still enjoying the first few years of married life!)

I was a priority for my parents, naturally, but they never attempted to be my sole playmates. They had outside interests, and the allowed me to cultivate mine. Their relationship with each other was very important to them -- and I'm glad. It gave me a wonderful example upon which to base my own marriage. We had a cat as well --Brio, my constant companion for his 18 years!

Both my parents are OLDEST children, and they were very strict with me when I was small. As a result, I was very well behaved, polite and articulate. I knew that if I didn't share, I'd certainly be in trouble. The only thing that I missed out on was the 'sibling-style teasing' I saw going on in the home of friends. I certainly learned how to deal with that by the time I was finished Kindergarten!

I'm close to my Mom's siblings (they're all much younger than her and were only teenagers when I was born), and my parents always encouraged me to rely on friends. I've created my own support network over the years. My husband is also very close to my parents (more so than with his own). They've become great friends of mine as I've grown older. I had a number of advantages while growing up, too. For example, we travelled extensively (in fact, we still do), something that would have been more difficult had my parents had more children.

I've seen both types of sibling relationships over the years -- those that are very close, others bordering on indifference and/or hatred. My husband cares for his brother, but they're not at all close; my Dad and his sister have virtually nothing in common and my Mom didn't become close to her siblings until they were in their 20s/30s, she in her 40s. I don't think that simply having siblings means that you'll have built-in best friends; it's possible, but not certain.

Honestly, Julie -- for me, the hardest part about being an only is having to bite my tongue when people go off on rants about the 'spoiled, entitled, self-involved only child'. It's always fun to see their faces when I remind them that I have no siblings!!

Posted by: Sarah at Jan 15, 2006 11:52:51 PM

I had one sister; I thought two kids was perfect. My husband had 3 siblings; he thought 4 was perfect. In all of our talks about having kids, we realized that we liked growing up with siblings. The good and the bad. We wanted to have more than 1, less than 10. We figured we'd know when we were done for sure.

I am one of those hated fertiles who had both children by "accident" (not really trying, but not really "not trying"). After my oldest son, the preeclampsia, NICU, and his severe disabilities, I was ready to raise him as an only child, but secretly wished to do it again, make it all end differently. Sadly, I couldn't enjoy my second pregnancy or even most of my second son's first year. That first experience scarred too deeply.

Now I definitely want a third. For selfish reasons, I guess. Partly for me, to have one more chance to try to relax a bit and enjoy the process. And, right or not, for my youngest son. As much as we love our oldest, being the only sibling to a severely disabled brother seems like a burden. We think another sibling would be good for both of them. For all of us.

But we are realists. We don't assume I could get pregnant as easily this time. Or that things won't go as badly as pregnancy #1. But I'm willing to take those risks. Our family just doesn't feel complete yet.

Posted by: Mete at Jan 16, 2006 12:05:16 AM

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