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08/27/2007

Warning: Contains spoilers, human remains, and, worst of all, Clamato.

What you've done

"I'm sure you won't read down this far," said a commenter on my last post.  "You won't have time to read all these," said another.  And from another, "I wish there were something I could do for you."

I did, and I did, and there was, and you did it.

I read your comments avidly, even greedily, every single one.  At my parents' house I would slip upstairs to the bedroom to open the laptop and scan your responses.  It helped me more than I can say to know I wasn't alone.  You offered your condolences, you told me your stories, and you shared your own experiences of loss, and there is no way I can adequately thank you for doing me that kindness.  I needed it, and I am grateful and humbled that you've given it so generously.  Thank you.

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My father/The body

Beefalo.  Rockumentary.  Brangelina.  Manwich.  Blaxploitation.  Cremains.

That last portmanteau, of course, denotes cremated human remains.  Most of us call them ashes, more comfortable with a polite euphemism than the more accurate but harsher description, pulverized bone fragments.  The funeral director settled for the middle ground, cremains, and was startled when I laughed.  (It sounds like a brand name: Cremains™.  I can only assume BoFrags didn't make it through the focus groups.)  I spent the rest of our meeting tuning out his solicitous questions and thinking of other blends.  Feminazi.  Televangelist.  Clamato!  What can I say?  I was grieving, y'all.

I am not sentimental about my father's remains.  In fact, I am almost the opposite.  The only part of his funeral service — Catholic, but not a mass — that truly offended me were the repeated reverences to the small wooden box that houses his ashes.  So implacably do I believe that he's gone that seeing people bow to a few pounds of dust upset me: That isn't him.  He isn't there.  Stop acting like that's my father.  That box contains no magic.

And later I had to think about this.  If I hadn't seen him in the hospital, still technically living but stripped of life, I might have been more inclined to tenderness.  After all, I loved his body.  When I was little we used to roughhouse, the sort of loving tussle that Charlie begs for now.  He'd lie near the edge of the bed, wearing only his shorts, and challenge me to push him off, promising me a dime if I could do it.  (Of course I could; he saw to that.)  It was the smoothness of his shoulder, so well remembered from my childhood, my handhold for pushing as hard as I could, that made me think of it at the hospital.  When I saw him on his back, so injured and so still, I said to my mother, "Bet you a dime I can push him off the bed." 

A joke.  (She laughed, relief.)  But a truth: Without the animation of his personality — that shoulder shaking with suppressed laughter as I shoved with all my five-year-old might —  it wasn't truly him.  Without the certainty that he would fall, but not until he was ready, it was finally just a body.

A well-loved body, to be sure, one wonderful in its turn to his parents, his wife, and his children.  A big body that sometimes seemed barely able to contain the obstinate force of his character — "Larger than life," said friend after friend as they spoke of him to me, describing the impact he'd had on their lives or on the community.  But a body that made him furious now and then with its limitations; in the end, a fragile one.

I am quite familiar with the disappointments of the body, both its expected failures and its shocking betrayals.  I've spent so long treating my own as an adversary that I think of people as neatly divisible, what we are easily distinguished from who we are.   It was a simple matter, then, to believe my father irrevocably gone before he'd even been extubated.  Without the part that had made him who he was, the body no longer mattered.

But is it unseemly, or even inhumane, I wondered later after the funeral, to be so ready to divorce the body from the being?  Am I too hasty to dismiss the last physical scraps of someone — anyone — unique and precious?  Do the people who bowed in front of that box know something I don't?  Maybe.  But I know something, too: What our bodies can't do is not who we are.

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Spoiler alert

Emotionally drained and in need of some light and undemanding entertainment, Paul and I took in the Simpsons movie last week.  I recommend that if your father was recently crushed under a motorcycle, you give this one a pass.  Oh, and if your mother was shot to death by a hunter, Bambi just might be a little rough for you.  And, hey, steer clear of Citizen Kane if you're, you know, fond of sleds, because what they did to poor Rosebud shouldn't happen to a dog.  (I'm not even going to mention Old Yeller.)

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Comments (165)

You know, something I've learned, and you've just proven, is that a sense of humor is the best tools for emotional survival.

Glad to hear from you, and thank you for sharing ourself through such a tough time.

When my grandmother died (the first death I was old enough to take to heart) I had trouble with the whole treatment of the remains also. It was an open casket ceremony, and to my 17 year-old eyes, it seemed like a sort of prurient peepshow for the heirs, giving each family member a chance to come up and satisfy the burning questions of "Is she REALLY dead??" (Because my mother is rather humor-handicapped, instead of a chortle, I got sent to my room for saying that out loud. But Dad laughed! Hey, we all grieve differently.)

Hugs and warm thoughts to you. You're not alone. We're here.

Posted by: Susan at Aug 27, 2007 2:24:39 PM

Even as I am crying with your memories of your father, you make me laugh. I also recommend missing the Lion King if your father has recently passed. I thought it would provide a little light entertainment for my husband the weekend after his father passed from cancer. I didn't know, and couldn't get to the stop button fast enough! take care of yourself as the weeks and months pass, and bring ever more chances to remember your father as he was

Posted by: victoria at Aug 27, 2007 2:30:51 PM

I missed you and am glad to hear that you've made it through these first parts with your irreverance intact. My father's parents died independently, but on the same day five years ago. My Dad and I tend to imitate my grandparents in unflattering ways or make fun of their faults as our private way of paying them homage. It probably doesn't make sense to the rest of our family, but the comic relief is a way of touching the sore spot lightly for us.

Thinking about you lots...

Posted by: Jennifer at Aug 27, 2007 2:31:50 PM

I just wanted to add my good thoughts to those of many others. I hurt for you, and am very glad to see your sense of humor is still intact. I personally think the whole "viewing the body" thing is ghoulish, so I avoided my beloved grandfather's casket like the plague during the viewing. As the only granddaughter, I needed to be there, but nobody said I had to stand next what was left after my grandfather went away.

And I love the term cremains. I always have. It makes me think of a really nasty breakfast cereal ;-)

Posted by: Beth at Aug 27, 2007 2:35:52 PM

My father was active, athletic, full of life and energy. The last time I held him he was frail as a bird, his soft white hair reminded me of feathers. He feel light and insubstantial, except where I could feel the sharp bones on his back and arms.
I was the only one of my siblings who did not kiss him goodbye as he lay in his casket. He was gone. And I wanted my last memory of his physical presence to be that one, awful as it was, because it was when he still had life inside him, when he was a frail shell holding the universe.

Posted by: Menita at Aug 27, 2007 2:36:40 PM

I meant "he felt," not "he feel." Sheesh.

Posted by: Menita at Aug 27, 2007 2:37:23 PM

My mom used to get the two major brands of non-dairy creamer mixed up - Creamora and Coffeemate. She called all non-dairy powdered creamer "Cream-mate."

I still can't drink the stuff.

Still so sorry about your dad. It is wonderful to have a sense of humor at times. I think it is nature's best defense mechanism.

Posted by: Amy at Aug 27, 2007 2:48:29 PM

A few days after I drove a friend's car into a concrete wall, nearly killing everyone on board, another friend took me to see the Cronenberg film "Crash".

I'm holding the armrests white-knuckled and he glances over at me and says contritely: "Oh no! I forgot!"

Posted by: Yatima at Aug 27, 2007 2:51:03 PM

...and, belatedly, I am so sorry for your loss; I wept over your last post. He sounds amazing.

Posted by: yatima at Aug 27, 2007 2:52:06 PM

I'm so sorry for your loss. I also felt very detached from my Mother's remains. We saw her for a brief time in the hospital before her death so maybe I would feel differently if I hadn't. My father, brother and I were doubled over laughing when the funeral director left us alone in the Casket Selection Room since we would probably need a private moment. It was set up like a store with many ultra tacky caskets, fabrics and little blurbs rating comfort, value and style. It was so ridiculous all we could do was laugh.

It has been 4 years now . . . It took me 2 years before I didn't cry every day, and 3 before I didn't wake up every day and have to remind myself that she was gone. Now when I wake up I just know. It changed me and my family in a way I could never have imagined. My thoughts are with you.

Posted by: jjzach at Aug 27, 2007 3:06:08 PM

Glad to hear from you and that you're finding comfort where you can get it.

My mom is one who takes comfort in having a bit of her mother around in the form of her ashes (ahem, Cremains). But then again, my mother is off the boat Sicilian and has a shrine set up to remember the dead in among our family and friends. Think Mexican Day of the Dead everyday! Maybe she isn't the best model for how to deal with grief, but I says, you do whatever makes you feel good or at least better.

Saw the Simpson's Movie. Loved it. Still singing "Spider Pig" (changed to "Spider Ninja") to my cat. He isn't pleased when I try to emulate the walking on the wall part. I don't do the ceiling. I'm not *that* mean.

If you're down for penis jokes and manly humor about trying to get laid (think a raunchier funnier American Pie) do see Superbad.

Posted by: Christine at Aug 27, 2007 3:08:41 PM

"extubated": you've either been around too many hospitals or read your Grey's anatomy too many times? hmmmm, which is it? One of the reasons I love reading other people's blogs is to see what I can figure out about them just from the way they write. It's funny how our occupation/hobbies/lot in life, ect. shows thru in our descriptions of life in general.
Again, I am sorry about your father. Good Memories are a treasure to have.

Posted by: D at Aug 27, 2007 3:14:21 PM

hey, cremains always make me think of craisins (tm) too!!! and i'd imagine if you put an exclamation point after it, it could be some kind of musical!

seriously...i'm so sorry. my dad three years ago, almost to the week of your loss. he was young (64) but had a bum heart, and died while on a transplant list. like your dad, he was always described as larger than life, and he was hilarious. and crazy. it has taken me nearly three years to remember him primarily as the vibrant funny loving giving foodie he was for most of his life rather than as the frail, paranoid, self-absorbed, messed-up and angry person he was at the end. we are hebe-y hebes, so we don't do cremains! (tm) (now in 100-calorie packs!) but i relate to your beautifully-expressed thoughts about the failings of the body. in his case, his mind was affected too, so i struggled hard with what The Self really is. i didn't say that well, but i think you know what i mean. i wish you comfort...kiss that beautiful charlie for me.

Posted by: marjorie at Aug 27, 2007 3:20:12 PM

What a beautiful eulogy for what sounds like an amazing father.

Posted by: She at Aug 27, 2007 3:20:14 PM

Julie,

My mother died unexpectedly of a heart attack when I was 24. I'm so sorry for the pain you're in right now. I couldn't even take peoples' wishes of condolences; couldn't accept it when people told me how sorry they were because I didn't believe they could possibly understand my pain.

She was also cremated, and I feel similarly disassociated from her ashes. They aren't "her," because she was animation and laughter and smiles. I feel torn between having them in a place of prominence in my house -- and inviting movie-type capers with cats -- or keeping them put away. I compromise by keeping them in the house, but not readily visible. When we go on vacation someplace warm, a place where she would have liked to go, I will probably drop them in the ocean.

As an only child the thing that upsets me most, 2 years past her dead, is that there is no one to really TALK to about her. My father and she were divorced and her family doesn't like to talk. So all of this grief and pain and love and anger is all bottled up inside; there is no one with whom to share those emotions. I hope you're able to share how you feel with your family; it feels a lot better than doing it with a therapist.

Posted by: Ariella at Aug 27, 2007 3:20:40 PM

I'm glad you're back, I missed you. I cried when I read your last post. My dad died 4 years ago but it seemed so fresh when you talked about losing your dad.
My mom and I have tried to see the bright side sometimes... "he never lost his hair!... He'd have been pissed to pay $3 for a gallon of gas" and other things like that, it helps sometimes, other times nothing helps except to cry. My thoughts are with you as you find YOUR way to grieve.

Posted by: Lisa at Aug 27, 2007 3:22:56 PM

I've always found the viewing of the body to be the hardest part of a funeral. It's almost obscene to me to have the body on display like that when it just so clearly no longer has anything to do with the person we're there to celebrate. Not to mention how unsettling and disturbing it is that someone you know so well is now unrecognizable. Because it's not them anymore.

I'm very sorry about your father.

Posted by: bre at Aug 27, 2007 3:27:14 PM

I was one of those readers who saw how many comments there were on your last post and didn't bother to post my own because I really didn't think you would read them all. I am now very ashamed of myself because I consider myself a faithful reader and was telling lots of people in the non-cyber world how a "friend" had suddenly lost her father and how bad I felt about it. I cried when I read both your posts and you truly have been a large part of my thoughts this past week. I'm glad that the comments provided a source of comfort.

On the issue of cremains and open caskets. When I was younger I was very freaked out by the idea of an open casket and refused to see both my grandfathers in a viewing before the funeral. I was however convinced to go and see my grandmother when she passed. The funeral home had done her hair and makeup in such an artificial way she almost looked like Queen Elizabeth, very regal. Except that's not how my grandmother looked in real life. Instead of being upsetting as I expected it was rather more releasing because I could truly appreciate that the body lying in the casket was no longer my grandmother and I realized she was really gone.

Posted by: Designenvy at Aug 27, 2007 3:28:57 PM

After reading your delightful blog paying homage (and twinges of irreverence) to your father,
I had a thought...

'Wow..Julie is just like him--larger than life'.

I'm pretty sure he's somewhere smiling a satisfied smile and thinking the same thing.

May you have peace and love, Julie.

Posted by: Tammy K at Aug 27, 2007 3:29:22 PM

I've always loved the medieval belief in relics, the feeling that the presence of a bone, a piece of tattered cloth, or a sliver of wood, could be a powerful conduit to something else, heaven, in their belief - just something else, in mine. When I read this blog posting, I couldn't help but think of this.

Posted by: Suz at Aug 27, 2007 3:31:28 PM

Love you. (Please note that I mean that in the most non-creepy, un-stalkerish way possible.) Also, don't rent "Bridge to Terabithia," it is NOT the lighthearted fantasy the trailers led me to believe.

Wishing you comfort and laughter and bright days ahead.

Posted by: Summer at Aug 27, 2007 3:40:23 PM

Cremains?

Do you they put them in a convenient reclosable top bag for you?

A family story: when my grandfather (short, stout, clotheshorse with dozens of suits) died, my father (tall, skinny, just purchased a suit for a job interview, otherwise didn't own one) and mother went to my grandmother's house.

My father hung his suit in the closet.

When it came time for the funeral, his suit was not to be found anywhere. He had to borrow one from my uncle.

Halfway through the funeral, my mother realized that my grandmother had told the undertakers to choose a suit from the closet - and she knew which one they had chosen. She thought of her pudgy father squeezed into her lanky boyfriend's suit - and thought "dad would have thought that was hilarious"

I wonder whether your dad would feel similarly about becoming a "cremain."

Posted by: artsweet at Aug 27, 2007 3:40:51 PM

I am so relieved by this post, and am also not surprised at all, given what a prolific writer you are, that many parts of it made me laugh.

(I commented on your last post, but not with this name.)

Posted by: Mama Bear at Aug 27, 2007 3:40:59 PM

Julie, you're awesome.

Posted by: klm at Aug 27, 2007 3:41:46 PM

My Dad was a goof. He was always saying things like, "hey, why are you wearing two different earrings?" followed, of course, by "made ya look." We had a graveside service for him and while we were hanging in the limo waiting for the rest of the folks to come, I realized that I had, in fact, put two different earrings on that day. My husband, my mother, and I were laughing so hard that the Rabbi assumed we were weeping and asked if we needed a few moments to collect ourselves. Which only made us laugh harder. That is the story I tell my kids when they ask about his death.

Posted by: Liz at Aug 27, 2007 3:43:08 PM

When I was in graduate school, an elderly man from my neighborhood had a heart attack on the sidewalk outside my second floor apartment. Through my open window I heard the sound of his glasses shattering as they hit the sidewalk. I rushed down and gave him CPR, but he was gone when the ambulance arrived a few minutes later.

Friends of mine told me I shouldn't be alone, and invited me over to see a movie they had rented -- Terminator 2. As the body count mounted, they kept looking over at me and wincing visibly. Eventually we turned off the TV and played Scrabble.

Someday, someone will make a fortune marketing customized warning labels for things like that: WARNING -- Will make you weep if you have just experienced random death for the first time.

Posted by: Teri at Aug 27, 2007 3:45:56 PM

You and your family have been in my thoughts constantly since your last post. I was relieved to read your post on Redbook. We cremated my father after his suicide and spread his ashes at the beach. I was always sorry I didn't have a place to go to, a physial place, to remember him. That there was nothing left of him. I guess I wasn't able to divorce the being from the body. Your post is beautiful.

Posted by: Stacy at Aug 27, 2007 3:46:45 PM

You are remarkably well intact Julie, and I'm glad to see so.

Posted by: Black Belt Mama at Aug 27, 2007 3:46:47 PM

I didn't say anything before because I had no idea what to say. I have been thinking of you often, though, and just had to tell you I'm so, so sorry for your loss. I wish I could do something other than offer you a few words of sincere sorrow.

Are you thinking of making a memorial quilt using his things?

Posted by: Carrie at Aug 27, 2007 3:49:34 PM

I think you're right - in every one of the funerals I've been to, when I've seen the person - it's not them. It's just a body. Whatever made them who they were... just goes away.

Posted by: serenity at Aug 27, 2007 3:54:00 PM

You have been in my thoughts. I am deeply sorry for your tragic loss.

I was holding my mother's hand when she died. It really was instantaneous, the "knowing" that she was no longer here. It made it very easy to donate her corneas.

Sadly, when my husband died of cancer, I was NOT there (I had left his side just two hours before...I'll never forgive myself)...the letting go of his body was immeasurably more difficult than it was with my mom, and the subsequent grieving far more intense and prolonged.

Still holding you in my thoughts and heart during this awful time for you and your family.

Vicki

Posted by: vicki at Aug 27, 2007 3:58:50 PM

I didn't comment last time either, but I spent a lot of time thinking about your loss. Here in the UK, we don't usually have viewings before funerals, and I think I'm glad of it - I'm a vet, so I'm no stranger to death as such, but I don't see that the shell of the person has much to do with who they were, really. You have to let your own instincts guide you through the grieving process; you'll know what's right for you, I think.
Very best wishes - I'm so sorry.

Posted by: Alison S at Aug 27, 2007 4:07:59 PM

I'm one of those commenters who shared her similar experience in losing her father after your last heart wrenching post.

And, I felt equally detached from my father's body as I sat with him in the hospital the evening he died of lung cancer. My dad was 6'1, probably 220 pounds, with a big, fun loving personality to match. He was also described by folks as "larger than life", and the "life of the party". The church was literally 'standing room only' on the day of his memorial service, and there were so many mourners that people had to park down the street at the fast food joint when the parking lot got full.

At 17 years old, I could not reconcile the incongruity of my image of my big, grinning dad with the frail and silent person in the hospital bed before me. Similarly, after he died, I never felt any connection to the casket, or even, eventually, to his grave site. How could I make any connection between that and the man who had touched so many lives, had so many friends, spread such good will in his short 45 years?

There are members of our family who have never forgiven my mother and me for decreeing that his funeral would be decidedly closed-casket. Neither of us could bear the idea that those who hadn't seen him during his relatively short (4 month) illness would travel to his funeral, and then have the image of him as looked when he died - 50 lbs lighter, half of his hair gone and the rest white/gray, face sunken and pinched and sick looking, in short NOT himself in any way - in their minds forever more. We didn't want anyone to remember him that way unless they had to. For a time I wished that I had never seen him in such a sickly state, and it plagued me for years that I'd unconsciously recall that version of his face first, before deliberately calling up the real REAL him in my mind's eye.

Our family also wags their fingers and clucks in disapproval over the fact that in the last 19 years my Mom and I have visited my Dad's grave only a handful of times.

The bottom line for me is that, while wholly significant when his mind and soul and personality were occupying his physical being, after death - not so important. What is in the ground, the remains, or cremains in your Dad's case, are just not significant for me. I still talk to my dad in my thoughts or prayers or whatever you want to call them, all the time. I don't need to be looking at a granite marker with his name on it in the cemetery to do so.

Thank you so much for continuing to share your honest and intelligent and often hilarious thoughts with your faithful readers through this incredibly painful and personal loss. We all appreciate it more than we can express. And I hope that all of these posts continue to bring you some level of comfort and support.

Posted by: K at Aug 27, 2007 4:16:33 PM

So glad to see this post; that you are putting one finger down after another to write, even if we don't see the times you stopped and howled with grief in between.

Our family laughs when others thing we should be crying. At my grandmother's gravesite my sister and I and my mother and her sister were hunched over, hiding our faces and laughing hysterically because someone had loudly passed gas. If my grandmother hadn't been dead, we all knew that person would have been her. And my father said, as they wheeled her out of the chapel, "that's the only time I've seen Edith leave first" because she loved to stay and talk until there was no one left to talk to.

Thinking of you daily. in, as someone said, a non-creepy way. Or a Crway.

Posted by: Cris at Aug 27, 2007 4:17:35 PM

someone, in an attempt to hurt me, once told me that my inability to look at my grandfather's dead body was something I should have been ashamed of.

They couldn't understand that my grandfather was so animated and giant that to see him without that would spoil something for me.
I think you said it a million times better...but I just wanted you to know that you are certainly not the only person that felt no magic in the coffin or box of ashes. The magic was in the man.

Posted by: Calliope at Aug 27, 2007 4:18:53 PM

Thank you for your post. I have tears rolling down my face as I think of your loss, as well as my own. My father died last year, as I sat by his side in the hospital. The pain is still raw a year later, but at least I am now able to smile some when I think of a good memory with him. You are not alone in your pain. I am glad you can find some comfort in our comments.

Posted by: Amy at Aug 27, 2007 4:22:46 PM

Both my BILs are funeral home directors and use the word "cremains" all the time. It always sounds slang to me, even though I know it's an industry term. Thinking of death as an industry makes me flinch.

I put my fist to my mouth with horror when I read about your movie choice. What an awful surprise to find out the thing that was supposed to divert you would bring you right back to your pain. I'm so sorry, Julie. For everything.

Posted by: Flicka at Aug 27, 2007 4:35:04 PM

I'm with Cris on this one, been thinking of you daily in a non-creepy way. I commented last time how sorry I was, of course, not really able to express myself in words...

But you made me cry this post and god I have felt for you. Humor is the best way, and I know I've smiled since your post reading some of the comments. I'd share a funeral experience where we'd laughed but I'm such a baby I cry constantly even at nonsappy movies.

Posted by: Tamsen at Aug 27, 2007 4:37:30 PM

Oh god, I took too long to comment (dealing with boss in between sentences) and I just read Flicka's comment. Holy shit. I didn't even really register what you said about the Simpsons. Holy shit. Nicht so gut.

Posted by: Tamsen at Aug 27, 2007 4:40:25 PM

Oh god, I took too long to comment (dealing with boss in between sentences) and I just read Flicka's comment. Holy shit. I didn't even really register what you said about the Simpsons. Holy shit. Nicht so gut.

Posted by: Tamsen at Aug 27, 2007 4:40:33 PM

Have been checking back to see if you are back, I am very sorry to hear about your father. I loved the way you describe his body as a little girl, it makes me think of my dad.

Hope you are on the way to being well, but your heart will never be the same I know, wishing you well.

Posted by: Hoping at Aug 27, 2007 4:48:17 PM

I'm so very sorry for your loss. I wish I had something useful to say, but I hope you know how many people out here care about you and your life.

Posted by: Gilly at Aug 27, 2007 5:12:40 PM

"Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glints on snow,
I am the sun on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there; I did not die."

Those lines have been attributed to two different people, and I'm not sure which is correct, but I do know they have brought me comfort at times when I wondered why I didn't place the importance on the body or ashes that others did.

My mom has been ill with cancer for some time and at one point talked about having her ashes turned into a 'diamond.' She thought it was the neatest idea and debated on which of us would get it. I gently suggested my sister. The thing I won't ever tell her, most likely, is that I have no desire to have any of her remains. To me they are not her, would make me nothing but uncomfortable and frankly I've seen too many movies where ashes get spilled, etc.

I just...I'd rather see something beautiful in nature that reminds me of someone, or laugh about something that was funny, or look through pictures. Like you, I'd rather remember how people were, the moments that grabbed my heart and squeezed. I don't think there's any fault in that.

Healing is a process, and I wish you much love and compassion during this time. It's hard to say goodbye.

Posted by: Mandy at Aug 27, 2007 5:13:59 PM

I can relate to the bad movie choice. I had a boyfriend whose father met his unfortunate demise when a truck he was working on fell and crushed him (he was alone). We went to see Bird on A Wire shortly afterwards- a Mel Gibson movie which I'm sure no one remembers, but it opens with a pair of legs beneath a car-- except in the movie someone is playing a trick on someone and its a stuffed pair of pants. It was not our best date.

I'm still thinking of you and your family- I strongly believe there is no "correct" way to grieve- it looks and feels slightly different for everyone.

Posted by: kristine at Aug 27, 2007 5:14:10 PM

You've made me cry again. And brought back fond memories of my own father. Hang in there and thanks.

Posted by: Bake Town at Aug 27, 2007 5:16:03 PM

What a beautiful way to remember your father. I am crying for you (which is probably creepy since we don't know each other and I don't comment often enough) but I am. So sorry.

Posted by: Amanda at Aug 27, 2007 5:18:43 PM

I agree with you. I remember my and my husband's grandparents from the last times I saw each of them whole and healthy. That's the way I'd rather remember them, not as cremains or what was in the open casket.

Maybe we have a different view after going through so much with IF though. I knew for a long time I was a mother-to-be. My body apparently didn't think so for 11 years though. Who we are in our hearts is definitely not the same as our external bodies.

Missed you while you were gone and hoped you were doing ok. Give Charlie a big ol' smooch from the internets.

Posted by: Angela at Aug 27, 2007 5:31:46 PM

Just thought of something else. In the Poor Choice of Light-hearted Comedy category: a friend of mine died many years ago at the age of eighteen. Riding in the North Georgia mountains with friends, he and his motorcycle failed to stay on the road when it curved and they collided with a tree. This was during the "Follow the leader; he's on a Honda" campaign. Shortly after his death, I was watching SNL when they spoofed the ad campaign with a "Follow the leader; he's in a tree" skit...

Posted by: Jennifer at Aug 27, 2007 5:41:04 PM

My favourite cremains moment(s) in film, by far, are in The Big Lebowski.

Julie, you write about how one relate's to a loved one's body in such a beautifully clear way. I'm touched, and reflecting, and remembering, and thanking you.

I'm a lurker and rarely comment, but I have been thinking of you since that last post, and will continue doing so. Take care.


Posted by: kelly at Aug 27, 2007 5:43:06 PM

The first time I heard the term "cremains" was while watching Six Feet Under. I laughed when I heard it, too. What a funny word.

When a friend of mine passed away, I was so relieved that the funeral was closed-casket so I wouldn't have to decide whether or not to view the body. Much as I would have loved to see him one last time, I knew my friend was no longer there, so seeing the body would not be the same as seeing him. I also knew that his body had changed drastically since I last saw him -- the cancer took 130 pounds of him before it took his life -- and I was terrified that he would look so different that I would go into some sort of denial: "That's not him. That doesn't even look like him. This is someone else who died. My friend's not dead." I'm so glad I never had to make that choice, and I'm also glad that my last memories of him are from when he was the big, lovable, vibrant person he always was.

You and yours have been in my thoughts lately, and you will continue to be. I hope you're well.

Posted by: Audrey at Aug 27, 2007 5:55:45 PM

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