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07/25/2008
Like a virgin
In the most fundamental of ways, this is all old hat — not late pregnancy, but a C-section followed by bringing home a baby. I know, very roughly, what those things are like, and could imagine I have an idea of what to expect. You know, if I were delusional. And complacent. And possessed of muuuch better drugs than I currently take. (I cannot say much for the hallucinogenic properties of insulin, heparin, or baby aspirin, although I do think I perceive the mildest of buzzes from the three dozen Tums I just crushed and sprinkled on my Kashi GoLean Crunch. I have it on good authority, which is to say the picture on the bottle, that they are every bit as healthful as fruit.)
But the fact is I don't really know what I'm in for in either arena, delivery or product thereof. I come to this as an amateur.
My C-section with Charlie came about because I was so sick. While I was healing from the incision, my body was still working pretty hard to normalize my blood pressure, to ward off seizures, to restore order after my liver's unsuccessful breakout attempt, and to replenish all those platelets I'd heedlessly discarded, thinking I wouldn't need them. So on the one hand, this time will be better; I'm healthy going in. But one of the very, very few advantages of having a baby in the NICU — round-the-clock child care during the immediate postpartum period — meant that I got enough rest during my convalescence. I don't expect that to be the case this time. (Did I just use "advantages" and "NICU" in the same sentence? And did I just boldly say, in front of God and everybody, using my outside voice, that I expect a healthy baby? Wait, maybe those Tums work better than I'd thought.)
And every time I tell myself that the pain postpartum was minimal, I have to remember that I don't actually know how heavily medicated I truly was. I know that after I left the hospital, I took only a single Percocet and felt fatigued but otherwise fine. But before that? I'm sure I was given something, and perhaps everything, for pain during the five days I spent in the hospital. I have no idea, therefore, how much anything hurt.
Five days in the hospital, by the way, left me as enervated as a kitten. A kitten who'd just had HELLP. Whether it was the prolonged rest, the illness, or the surgery itself that left me so wrung out, I remember being tired. But I also think the knowledge that I needed to be up and around galvanized me into action, and probably gave me more energy than I'd have otherwise had. After all, if I didn't shower and dress every day to go to the NICU and stare really hard at Charlie's isolette, what was there, really, to keep him alive? CPAP? TPN? Caffeine? Lasix? Broad-spectrum antibiotics? Doctors? Hmph, what do they know?
So I don't feel I can draw any sort of inferences about what it's like to recover from a C-section performed under controlled conditions. I don't think anything I've experienced is relevant. And that was just the delivery and its immediate aftermath. There's also the fact that while I have indeed cared for a newborn, the circumstances this time will be wildly different.
Charlie started off easy. Unlike most newborns, many preemies come home having become habituated to a schedule. By the time he was 36 weeks' gestation, Charlie's needs erupted, like Old Faithful, on a solidly reliable timetable. And Paul and I had nothing to do but tend to those needs, working in shifts so that each of us got roughly enough rest.
But then things got tougher. Reflux, colic, Charie's mulish refusal to sleep when I would have found it most convenient — mostly normal newborn stuff in origin, but exacerbated by his prematurity. It is not, I think, inaccurate to say that he was in many ways harder than your average newborn. It is also fair to say that we were a little too aware of that, a little too absorbed, our garden variety new-parent neuroses magnified by the trauma of what we'd gone through. I like to sum it up by saying, We were crazy, and Charlie was hard. Both things equally true.
I want to think this will be different, but it's impossible to predict. We do have a baby under our belts, and everyone says it's easier with the second. (By "everyone" I mean the neighbor who collared me at the farmer's market last week specifically to ask me if I was having this baby "naturally." "Do you mean do I intend to push it out through my newly distended vagina?" I wanted to ask in a loud voice with a polite blink. But I chickened out, and instead only smiled sickly while fantasizing about battering her senseless with the giant zucchini that was closest to hand. And thought about just how not natural every aspect of this reproductive endeavor has been. Why, I'm practically birthing a Lunchable here.)
But it is exactly that baby under our belts — Charlie, who decided this morning that he was a washing machine, and could be persuaded to drink his milk only when I assured him it was fabric softener — that concerns me. I don't worry about shortchanging a baby, because while a newborn's physical needs may be more immediate, his emotional needs are simple and easily satisfied. A three-and-a-half-year-old is a different matter. The baby may be easier than Charlie was, but Charlie will be harder. More fragile and surely more needy.
I do not want him to get lost in the new baby shuffle. What I imagine is not significantly decreasing our attention to Charlie, but significantly decreasing the absorption we might invest in the baby were he our first — perhaps to the benefit of us all. And not spending the whole first year staring really hard at the baby you didn't think you'd get will be, like most of the rest of this for me, an entirely new experience.
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Charlie might be able to do most of the baby-staring, while you tend to both his and his little brother's needs... Oh, and please don't forget your own!
Posted by: Mijke at Jul 25, 2008 10:59:15 AM
I know that feeling. My oldest two were born at 32 weeks and 30 weeks, so when #3 came along and was actually born "full term", it was like having my first baby all over again because I had no idea what it was like to have a "normal" experience or a healthy baby that could *gasp* come home WITH me when I left the hospital. Don't worry too much about Mr. C getting lost in the shuffle. Perfectly normal worry to have, but it all works out..I promise you that. I worried with each of my youngest when we'd bring a new baby home and they've all done great.. even better than I'd expected the last 2 times.
As far as the c-section stuff goes, I don't know if this will help or not, but I've had 2 sections, both were emergency situations. My first one was a bitch to recover from and it was really hard on me. My last one was cake. The difference, that I only noticed a week and a half after my last one, was that the second time around I popped my pills with timely accuracy. The first time I didn't take the pain meds like I should have and only recently could realize that that was most likely the entire reason that I had such a hard recovery. Because I was in constant pain. Constant pain whilst traveling to and from the NICU and taking care of a toddler. Great fun, it was. Or not. I recovered much better the 2nd time around and am no longer deathly terrified of the c-section process. I'm done having children, but if we'd had another I would've gone for another section, no question about it.
P.S. I know what you mean about the NICU and the "advantage". It always sounds bad to us when we say sentences like that out loud, but I totally know exactly what you mean by it, and it Is true. Once that new little boy is home with you while you're recovering, you'll discover a whole new world of new mother sleep deprivation.
I'm just positively thrilled for you and am just so glad that things have gone so much better this time around. Many hugs and well wishes your way.
Posted by: TheHMC at Jul 25, 2008 11:17:37 AM
I'm just so damn happy you get to worry about these sort of things, rather than staring at your baby really hard to keep him alive.
Posted by: Sarah at Jul 25, 2008 11:19:36 AM
We had an older brother who was utterly enamored of the new arrival but, as a result, one who was initially pretty bummed that his feelings did not appear to be reciprocated. We spend a lot of time pouncing on opportunities: "Oh, look! He's watching you! He knows you're his brother!"
We were basically the crappiest matchmakers ever, trying to fool our client.
Posted by: Slim at Jul 25, 2008 11:27:32 AM
I read you avidly a couple of years ago and today for no good reason thought I'd peek in on you.
And holy smokes! You're going to birth a baby next week!
Warmest congratulations!
Posted by: Sabrina at Jul 25, 2008 11:30:33 AM
Hi, just linked over here from amalah, and I haven't read much but I've read enough to know - that August 1 probably can't come fast enough for you. Dear lady, you are going to make it. You are going to be A OK. If staring at your preemie sweetie in his isolette is the magic that kept him alive (I believe this), then me beaming health into my computer screen at your blog can surely help you over this next hurdle.
I just commented on amalah about how puzzling I found the "are you going to try to do it naturally" question came to me. What do they mean? Vaginally? Vaginally without drugs? At home? I didn't know. I still don't. I just tried to answer - I'm going to try to do it. However "it" comes. And maybe get a baby and not too big of a labor "hangover" out of it.
Which I did. And YOU WILL! Soon. Only one more week. As my birth class teacher made us chant over and over til I wanted to sock her in the teeth - "you can have your baby. You can have your baby. You can have your baby." Blech.
Posted by: Gillian at Jul 25, 2008 11:37:32 AM
Nah, you'll still spend an inordinate amount of time staring really hard at this baby, too. Yes, Charlie will be needy and clingy. Let him. Make him your "helper" (miniature indentured servant) and have him "help" you with everything he possibly can. Yes, he will be in your way, because a 3 yr old's help is not that helpful, but it will make him feel like he's an important part of the process. And it will teach him how to be a good big brother. At least in theory.
Posted by: Stacy at Jul 25, 2008 11:39:24 AM
We are still at the stage of looking at our nearly 1 year old son and thinking.... good lord, are we ready to even try again? But I do have the same fears about a second pregnancy and birth. Last time I had six weeks to fully recover before he came home (Owen and Charlie were almost exactly the same gestational age at birth and stayed in the NICU almost exactly the same number of days). Next time? Not so much. And if I need bedrest again, it won't be four weeks of longing on the couch petting the dog. There would be a fair amount of trying to keep Owen from killing himself with his kamikaze behavior.
Is it just me or is the prospect of actually getting to take the baby home immediately utterly foreign?
Posted by: Kris at Jul 25, 2008 11:44:07 AM
Practically giving birth to a Lunchable?
I can't remember the last time I commented on your blog, but had to delurk just to say OH HOLY HELL you are funny!
And while I'm at it: Thrilled for you and your family! Second time around *is* easier! (Please don't whack me with a zucchini!)
Posted by: Allison at Jul 25, 2008 11:46:46 AM
It is perfectly normal to worry about this..but there is a funny thing about the second baby..they kind of 'know' you have another kidlet to attend to and have a measure more patience..
and as far as the second c-section, while I have no experience w/ that recovery, I do know from what others have told me that the second time is easier as far as the recovery goes..and I'd bet that it will be easier for you b/c of how rough the last one was..in all aspects..
as life threatening as the last situation was, this is going to have to be a breeze for your body..
Hang in there and GOOD luck..I am insanely excited for you
Posted by: Tiffany at Jul 25, 2008 11:46:57 AM
I wish people that have had easy-peasy pregnancies with no problems would just shut up.
I had my vaginal birth. I gave birth to a baby who died in my arms, and I had no drugs.
I'll take the section and a live baby next time.
You do what you need to do to have a happy, healthy baby.
Posted by: Mrs.Spit at Jul 25, 2008 11:48:13 AM
Gee, a non-preemie... this will be a whole new thing. Still kind of sleepless at first, but probably with less worry and a shorter recovery time for you. I recall being tired from the baby care, not from the surgery (at least after Day 4 -- Days 1 through 3 are forever lost in a Demerol haze, I'm afraid).
Still, if there is an "upside" to having things so bad when Charlie was born (and, since they were anyway, one might as well find the upside), it's that any experience with baby will be an improvement.
May you have an easy C-delivery, a swift recovery and all the good recovery drugs that life has to offer.
~C~
Posted by: Catharine at Jul 25, 2008 11:48:47 AM
It so nice to hear normalcy coming from you, you lunchable gestating freak ... and what I mean by that is, every second time parent worries and wonders how it's going to play out, how the oldest is going to cope and who will get shortchanged ... how to run around after #1 when #2 is attached to breast and c-section scar is on fire.
Hooray for normalcy! You deserve it!!
Posted by: moo at Jul 25, 2008 11:49:54 AM
Wishing you a good C, a speedy recovery, and enough patience with yourself.
And question for Charlie: is he a Maytag? Kenmore? What's his favorite soap?
Posted by: Madame Meow at Jul 25, 2008 12:12:03 PM
I was shocked to discover how different bringing home the second baby was from bringing home the first. There is a sharp learning curve, but you will all get through it and adjust -- even Charlie.
Posted by: mamadaisy at Jul 25, 2008 12:20:59 PM
I had a scheduled c-section, just because I wanted one. It was very very easy. I don't know how large a part adrenaline played, but it really wasn't a big deal. I took home my pain meds, and used them some, but if you have someone there with you, it will be super easy. I would say it hurts worse to stub your toe bad than to deal with post-partum c-section pain. At least that was my experience as a healthy, 26 year old with no labor.
Posted by: Bethany at Jul 25, 2008 12:21:07 PM
I remember the NICU nurse who, when I said we were going to go out to dinner with friends, said, "Enjoy the freedom while you have it!". Now, at the time it was the WRONG thing to say to me especially because I already didn't like her and subsequently had her removed from our case. However, I now acknowledge that she was somewhat right and that the "upside" of our NICU stay was good recovery and baby-prep time. We didn't need the 128 days it took to bring our daughter home, but if there was an upside, besides the baby, that was it.
Posted by: Sam's Mom at Jul 25, 2008 12:25:15 PM
Hopeful words of comfort:
Like you, C-section under duress; unlike you, long and painful recovery last time. Getting out of bed was terrible for at least two weeks. This time: with the help of Percocet, up and about, relatively pain free within two days. I was amazed by how good I felt.
Can't speak to full-term, since my second was 9 days in the NICU (and it *is* comforting!) But she is easier, because we're not as freaked out, and her personality is mellower than our first. Our 2 year-old mostly ignores her and has few sad moments.
Maybe b/c our expectations were so low, we are very pleasantly surprised by how this is working. Knock wood.
Posted by: Heather at Jul 25, 2008 12:27:47 PM
Warning: assvice ahead. I was not-quite-3 when my sister was born, and the day they brought her home from the hospital is my first real memory. They walked in and said "this is your new sister, and she brought you a present!" I was so thrilled that the new baby had thought of me! I opened the whole thing up and played with all the little pieces, and then thought, oh hey, there's a baby here too. And went to go look at her. I thought she was a pretty nice baby for bringing me such a great present. It really softened the blow, for me.
I've been reading a long time - I'm so excited for you!! :)
Posted by: Kirsten at Jul 25, 2008 12:43:44 PM
Hola, this is Mindy again. I gave birth to my second son on July 10. I was fortunate to have a vbac, however I had a forceps delivery with a huge episiotomy - and believe me, the pain and initial recovery from that was worse than the pain and recovery from the c section! I couldnt sit for 10 days and going to the bathroom was torture!
Several pointers:
youre correct that having to take care of the baby immediately post c section is very challenging. however, you will have a 4 day hospital stay and I urge you to let the nurses care for the baby as much as possible.
When you get home, PLEASE line up some help. Whether you have to pay for it or put up with annoying relatives, get help. I am fortuante to live in a community where new mothers go to a mother-baby convalescent home for 7-10 days and the older child goes to a relative for 2 weeks. So I was able to get back to mysel with no distractions, and my 3 year old is coming home today, so I havent yet actually experienced being a mom of 2. I know you wont have that and will be home with a demanding toddler and demanding infant 4 days postpartum - so the only real way to do this is with help. Especially lifting a 9 pound or whatever newborn yourself - you'll need someone to hand you teh baby whenever possible.
the only thing, however, that I can positively share with you, is that the difference between a preemie and a full term baby is HUUUUGE. Shimi cried so much, was so gassy, so demanding. Woke every 3 hours for a feeding which took ages. the new baby, Mendy, is a saint!!! All he needs is to be nursed and changed and nursed and changed. Sure, sometimes he needs to be held and burped, but he doesnt have 2 hour screaming fests for no reason. And since breastfeeding is a cinch with a full term baby - I gave up the endless pumping/supplementing/struggling to nurse thing after four weeks with my preemie - life is so much simpler. No bottles to warm, no endless pumping sessions except when engorged. Etc. So the baby will certainly hopefully be easier to handle than Charlie was.
I dont know how spoiled charlie is and how much he can engage/fend for himself. i also dont know if he goes away daily to preschool. My 3 yr old is BITTERLY SPOILED and a DESTRUCTIVE TORNADO, so his hours home with me and Mendy terrify me. But at least he's out of the house from 9:45 to 3:20 every day. I hope you're lining up some sort of plan for him to spend part of the day away from you, especially the first few weeks.
So that's the sum total of my experience as a recent postpartum mother of a 2nd child, while my first, 3 yr old, was a preemie. Granted I did have a vbac so my recovery was faster, and I didnt have my toddler home for 2 weeks, so you'll be in a bit of a tougher position. But I hope I've been helpful.
goodluck!!!!
Posted by: mindy at Jul 25, 2008 12:49:42 PM
You had me at "birthing a lunchable"
Julie, I have no assvice or real advice to give. I'll say this though - having "known" you (via teh internets) for as long as I have, I have every bit of confidence in your ability as a mother (and Paul as a father). You'll find your way, somehow to transition smoothly into your expanding family.
Posted by: April at Jul 25, 2008 12:50:20 PM
Re: pain. Don't worry. It's not bad. Sore but not a lot of actual pain unless you push yourself too hard. Lie down as much as possible in the first few days and you'll be fine. So cross C-section pain off your list of worries.
Posted by: spoiledonlychild at Jul 25, 2008 12:51:51 PM
You never know how the older child will react. My first absolutely thrived on the increased chaos that accompanied my second. She absolutely loved everything about him from Day 1. My second was pretty indifferent to my third, but he has warmed up to her a lot. I would not take it for granted that this will be hard on Charlie. You don't want to communicate to him that this must be hard for him, unless he shows signs of it being hard. (end assvice)
Posted by: anon at Jul 25, 2008 12:54:45 PM
Haven't had a C section, so can't speak to that. But as the mother to three kids (3! How in the heck did that happen?) I can tell you this about bringing-the-new-sibling-home: it won't be as bad as you THINK it will be.
Heck, if you convince Charlie that his new brother is a clothes dryer...
Posted by: Joni at Jul 25, 2008 12:55:53 PM
I had 3 sections and I recovered fast from all of them, I never filled the pain med prescriptions and barely used OTC pain meds either. I will pray you are as lucky!
the best advice is to get up and get moving, no matter how slowly at first as soon as possible. it really will make your recovery less painful believe it or not.
BUT also rest when you can, hard to do w/ a sibling around to tend to but it will all work out. my kids have survived, thus far!!
Posted by: amy at Jul 25, 2008 12:57:31 PM
I think you'll probably find you're recovery this time to be a breeze as long as you remember to take your percocet. And don't rush home if they try to turn you out after two days. Because your nurse? Has a pocket full of percocet.
Good luck, Julie, from a longtime lurker. I recently left this same comment on Cecily's blog: I wish I could go back in time to my infertile self and show her your blog today, along with Karen's, Julia's, and really everyone I used to read during those hard times.
Posted by: Beth at Jul 25, 2008 1:02:04 PM
Yes, caring for a newborn after a section is difficult, but Charlie will certainly be the more difficult baby. That's just how it is with a 3yo (BTDT), but you'll do just fine.
Posted by: Tinker at Jul 25, 2008 1:05:16 PM
I had a C-section (non-emergency) when induction failed at 39.5 weeks. For some god forsaken reason, it happened at 9 pm and I was pretty stoned. We didn't get back to a room until 2 am and my husband left at 3. I was stupid enough to tend to my son myself rather than allow the nurse to do things like change his diaper 6 hours after he was born or holding him the entire night. At no time was I in pain due to the meds. I stopped taking them 5 days after he was born durin the day and not long after that at night. It did effect my judgement though. I didn't really sleep because my son would not sleep if I wasn't holding him; so we spent all night on the couch covered in dos watching project runway. I should have asked for more help from my hubby.
Posted by: Lisa at Jul 25, 2008 1:10:37 PM
I was 18 mos old when my brother was born, and my parents remember me as being fine until one day my mom decided to bring him in to do laundry and close the door on me, coloring, in my room. That's when I lost my shit.
But 30 years later, I'm definitely, like, totally over it, or something ;)
Charlie will be fine. Siblings are always a trying experience, but in the end they are so worth having.
Posted by: Heather at Jul 25, 2008 1:16:00 PM
I've been reading your blog for two year and just wanted to say congrats, congrats, congrats. About the c-section: my 2nd baby was an emergency c-section and I was fully recovered exactly 3 weeks after the birth. I was cleared for exercise, sex swimming, lifting weights (I was only interested in the swimming, it was July). The key, I followed doctor's orders to the letter. Took my pain meds on schedule for the first week, whether I thought I needed them or not, picked up the new baby only when I had too (nursing, etc), did not pick up my 21-month-old toddler (heart-wrenching, but I did what they said), had help at home when my husband wasn't at work, didn't do stairs unless I absolutely had to. It was all worth in. After those 3 weeks I was totally back to normal. It was actually a faster recovery than my vaginal birth (with minor tearing). So, my ass-vice: do what the doc tells you is best for a speedy recovery. Can't wait to hear all the details about Charlie's little brother.
Posted by: Maeve's mom at Jul 25, 2008 1:16:28 PM
Didn't read all the comments, but I second what theLMC said. Take the drugs on schedule, and you'll feel OK. I had a skedded c (with my first) and remember it being OK, recovery-wise, because I'm a big believer in painkillers. Those things WORK.
Posted by: Lyrehca at Jul 25, 2008 1:17:04 PM
The one thing that I found different on the second birth was that after you have the baby and your uterus starts contracting to shrink down, it was WAY more intense then the first birth especially if you are nursing. I remember mentioning it to my nurse thinking something was wrong (felt like I was in full blown labor a day after I delivered) and she just laughed and said that with each baby it gets worse. A friend who had her baby by C-section had the same experience.
I had the same fears about bring home a new baby (and my girls are the same age difference as your guys) and maybe because I had a craptasic pregnancy and preterm delivery with my first baby, I was pleasantly surprised how well the second one went. You will be blown away by the difference between a preemie and a full-term baby!
I am so very happy for you and your family. Congratulations!
Posted by: Kate at Jul 25, 2008 1:41:38 PM
I don't have any personal experience to share, but I was a nanny to a family with a four year old and a newborn. The four year old was born vaginally, and the newborn was a C-section. The mom couldn't stop talking about how much easier it was to recover from the section. She was just amazed at how good she felt after the birth. Here's hoping you are so pleasantly surprised.
Posted by: Unruly Duckling at Jul 25, 2008 2:15:15 PM
It took me a while (6 weeks) to fully recover from my second C-section due to a fungal infection and the wound not closing properly. Make sure you have plenty of help (cleaning, housework, heavy lifting) and don't overdo it.
Also, I found that giving my oldest 15-30 minutes of special, protected time a day helped her a lot.
Posted by: perceval at Jul 25, 2008 2:30:38 PM
While I am assuming your baby won't need a NICU stay, it is highly likely that he will be spending a good amount of time in the nursery. As a GD baby his blood sugar and insulin levels as well as the oxygen levels in his blood will be monitored. Also, even though my twins didn't spend a minute in the NICU, I still got plenty of rest. The hospital staff knows you need time and sleep to recover from surgery, so anytime you really need to sleep and want a break, don't feel bashful about sending your bundle of joy back to the nursery. With Charlie at home you will definitely need your rest. I was in perfect health when I had my C, and I still felt like a weak, and sometimes violently ill, kitten for about a week...so having a baby cut out of your abdomen was definitely part of that sick and tired deal, not just everything else you had to deal with.
Here's to hoping that we both have a better C section time this go round. I know yours will definitely be an improvement :)
Posted by: Chickenpig at Jul 25, 2008 2:36:50 PM
I was in labor for 36 hours and then delivered via a non-emergency c-section. Full-term, and had gone through the usual discomfort of weeks 40 and part of 41 with not a lot of sleeping, so by the time my son arrived I wasn't what you'd call well-rested.
That said? Bearable. I don't know what else they pumped into me for the actual C (other than a serious epidural), but once I had the choice I took only the ibuprofen I was offered, er, instructed to take and nothing else (and not even much of that once I got home); my son roomed in with me, I breastfed him, changed him, never let him leave my sight.
And Chickenpig's experience notwithstanding, my GD baby was with me almost 100% of the time. He was hypoglycemic and did have to be taken away for an hour or so at first (in our case only after breastfeeding), but otherwise, as I say, we roomed in and that was right for us.
I know you've posted on this but I cannot remember exactly what your breastfeeding preferences are. However, I think they include trying and if I remember that right I would advocate making sure your care team is aware of this up front and committed to getting your son to you quickly after the C. It is feasible (at least it can be, of course that doesn't mean it always works out that way). Also...well, of course I know you know you should see a lactation consultant ;).
No help on the older sibling, I'm afraid, but following your story closely because I hope against hope to be there myself, someday.
Oh -- I'll add -- recovery from c-section not a huge deal in my experience, though bending over problematic, but we do not have stairs in our house. If you do, I think it would be worth planning how to minimize your need to traverse them.
Posted by: at Jul 25, 2008 3:01:19 PM
I just love your writing - you managed to link everything together so fluidly and find metaphors in the best places ("practically birthing a luncheable" cracked me up!)
Thanks for sharing your journey!
:) Becky
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Posted by: Becky at Jul 25, 2008 3:20:41 PM
My recent freak-attacks have largely been centered around worrying about Simon once the baby comes. It's hard to imagine taking what I am and splitting it in too and loving two little boys as much as I love him. I feel sometimes like it will split me apart and my Mama-insides will spill all over the place.
Then I lay off the crazy pregnant-lady thoughts and I try to chill out. But damn. It's scary how much I want to protect him and how much I know that the choice I've made will change his life.
Babies, man!
Posted by: Maria at Jul 25, 2008 3:33:25 PM
You will struggle with this balance every day. Something people with multiple children tried to warn me about before W was born, but like the advice I received while pregnant with my first, it didn't really ring true until I was actually knee deep in 2nd time parenthood. Read my blog if you want any indication as to how tough it can be. But also very rewarding. Good luck either way.
Posted by: cate at Jul 25, 2008 3:33:41 PM
I'm skipping over many of these comments about everyone's easy c-section, because reading them is too hard for me. Sorry to all of you.
Julie, I hope you get an easy c-section, but as I blogged today, it isn't always possible, even if you take all the painkillers.
I've taken loads of percocets and codeine, and gotten refills, I have a nanny full-time, and two months out, I am no where near recovery. I am in agonizing stomach and pelvic pain, and my doctors think it has nothing to do with the emergency section, and everything to do with my body just being the way it is. I healed with time after my complicated forceps vaginal delivery, and I felt like a million bucks after my uncomplicated vaginal deliveries.
But I just don't heal well from major surgery...some women don't. So just in case, have a contingency plan in place, with family or home care. If you don't need, oh well, but what if?
I hope you do heal well, I sincerely hope that this time you and Paul and Charlie get everything you want---boringly, normal, and average. Textbook lovely in fact.
Posted by: Aurelia at Jul 25, 2008 3:33:55 PM
My recent freak-attacks have largely been centered around worrying about Simon once the baby comes. It's hard to imagine taking what I am and splitting it in too and loving two little boys as much as I love him. I feel sometimes like it will split me apart and my Mama-insides will spill all over the place.
Then I lay off the crazy pregnant-lady thoughts and I try to chill out. But damn. It's scary how much I want to protect him and how much I know that the choice I've made will change his life.
Babies, man!
Posted by: Maria at Jul 25, 2008 3:34:06 PM
It's so rare that I have anything relevant to add here, but I do now! And so...
Second c-section = WAY worse than the first. Maybe it's the repeated trauma thing, maybe it's the fact that your body's been pregnant twice and doesn't bounce back as nicely, maybe it's that you have a child at home who just will NOT allow you to keep your swollen feet elevated for more than a nanosecond at a time. (OK, I'm SURE it's that last one, at least partly.)
With my first (she was in NICU for six days only, but that was enough, thankyouverymuch), I remember that we went out to dinner with friends on the fifth night after her birth, to celebrate the fact that we'd be bringing her home in the morning. And I remember like it was yesterday (even though it was actually 11 years' worth of yesterdays) going to the bathroom, sitting down, getting back up, and saying, "HEY! That didn't hurt!"
Five days, and I was pretty much healed.
With my son? Who didn't wind up in the NICU (well, for five hours he did, but that doesn't count...)? I was a mess, for weeks. And I don't mean emotionally...that's a separate kettle of fish. But my legs stayed swollen for almost two weeks, the incision hurt for what seemed like forever, that sort of thing. It wasn't AWFUL, but yes, it took a LOT longer. And I wish I'd known, so that I didn't think there was something horribly wrong with me...which was only exacerbated by my tendency to grow anxious and obsessive after giving birth.
Knowledge is power. If my experience and those of my friends is any guide, this is likely to be a harder recovery. But recover you will.
Oh, and the staring? Happens all over again.
Posted by: TC at Jul 25, 2008 4:08:40 PM
I have no experience in the older child department, since I have yet to manage a live birth, although I am hopeful that will change in about three days when I poke my tongue out at the vagina-police and have MY scheduled c-section,...
But. Since I shall shortly be offline, I just wanted to say I've followed your blog since forever and it's been vicariously wonderful to see you get a second (and healthy) pregnancy. :)
J
Posted by: geohde at Jul 25, 2008 4:24:25 PM
I had a very similar experience, and similar anxieties going into my second pregnancy. With my first child, I had Acute Fatty Liver of Pregnancy, which caused liver and kidney failure, an emergency c-section, a baby with an Apgar of 1, and ICU and NICU stays for both of us. We both recovered, and I just had my second baby. I was on Lovenox and baby aspirin throughout the second pregnancy. He was an IVF baby, too. I worried about getting sick again, and I worried about how hard it was all going to be on my firstborn. I chose to have a c-section, just because I didn't want to leave more to chance than I had to. It felt safer. It was an incredible experience, to give birth to a healthy baby, to see him right when he was born, hear his first cry, nurse him, hold him- all those things I missed with my first son. My eyes were swollen the first time and I couldn't even see the Polaroids people kept holding up to me when I begged to see my baby. To have my baby's birthday be a happy day instead of a terrifying day, to be conscious his first day of life- just amazing. And my older son loves him and has adjusted so well. When he feels jealous or left out, he tells us, and we make sure to give him extra time and attention. I hope you have a wonderful experience, too. Oh, and my incision hurt more this time for a few days (I missed those extra days on morphine), but I recovered much more quickly this time. Best wishes to you.
Posted by: Karin at Jul 25, 2008 4:27:29 PM
Utilize the nursery as much as possible (send him off to them at night so you can get rest. They will bring him back as needed). Best assvice I ever got!
Charlie will be traumatized at first. There's just no way around that. But he will get to where he doesn't much remember life before the baby.
My first son (IVF, c-section) was a NICU baby of two months. My second full-term son's birth (c-section) was definitely a more pleasant experience. But I was still hormonal, still tired, still sore, still sucked at breastfeeding, and still very worried about him. Not quite the perfect "do-over" I anticipated but, yeah, TONS better.
Posted by: jk at Jul 25, 2008 4:47:44 PM
I had 2 c sections. Neither were after long laboring. The first was after 2 days of failing to be induced and the next was scheduled.
I don't remember any hard recoveries. I did stairs, was driving in 3 weeks and the 2nd time had a 32 lb 15 month old to take care of and the new 9.6 lb baby. I went to a c section support group to hear a talk on anesthesia and all these women were talking about their failed deliveries. I thougth any pregnancy or delivery was successful if it produced a baby.
Good luck
Posted by: mary at Jul 25, 2008 4:49:40 PM
Charlie may surprise you. My firstborn was delighted with "her baby." They're still amazingly close, so close that sometimes I'm jealous.
My hubby, on the other hand, was three months old when he was nearly THROWN FROM A THIRD FLOOR WINDOW by his older sibling. The animosity continues to this day. it doesn't help that hubby is taller, better looking and makes more money. My brother-in-law routinely accuses him of "stealing" his parents' love. It is not a good situation.
I can sympathize. Imagine your husband bringing home a new wife and telling you that the two of your are going to be good friends and have lots of fun together.
Posted by: Palmer at Jul 25, 2008 4:49:41 PM
I had two c-sections. Both I would call 'easy' recoveries (I think not laboring before having the c-section definitely helps with this). Three thoughts - 1. Ask about the difference between epidural and spinal block and which will get you moving around quicker after. 2. Move around in bed and have others move you (switch sides occasionally and don't just stay on your back) in order to get things moving (the pain I had tended to be gas pains). 3. Think about getting a bikini wax and have them take a strip off the top where they'll be doing the incision. I did that the second time and it made the recovery in that area (at least as far as the skin / stitches / etc) went. The first time though, some intern gave me a scratchy scrapey dry shave with a horrible razor and the hair growing up through where the stitches / staples were, made a big itchy uncomfortable ugly mess. Yikes.
All best wishes to you and the whole family!
Posted by: Cris at Jul 25, 2008 4:55:51 PM
I echo the commenter's advice about taking your meds regularly. Do that. Even if you start thinking you're studly (like me) and you seem to have no pain, just trust me and take them until you're about three weeks into it, and you truly forget to take them. But up until then? Don't delay but one minute!!
And we just added #2, and yeah, it's true that #1 has some "what the hell" moments, but it's VASTLY EASIER than you think it might be. Anyone who says otherwise is being a scaremonger.
Posted by: Erica at Jul 25, 2008 5:11:19 PM
The Lunchable line was really priceless.
For what it's worth (which isn't much), I worried about all of those same things when I was pregnant with my second baby. The truth is that some days are really impossibly hard and some days are great. And you look at your new baby and wonder what ever you did without them in your life. And you look at your oldest with the same wonder and think, How in the World Did You Get So Big? And your love more than doubles.
I am so excited that you get to experience this too.
P.S. My second c-section was so much easier than my first. Truly.
Posted by: Mary O at Jul 25, 2008 5:24:42 PM

