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06/29/2009

Hardcover, I tell you. Full price!

Dear Liza Mundy,

I am a fan.  Let me tell you how big a fan I am: I bought your book in hardcover.  I think it's fantastic — provocative but not gratuitously so, balanced, well researched, and humane.  It's rare to find journalism that raises the essential questions of the ethics of ART without pissing me right off, but in Everything Conceivable you did it beautifully, nimbly avoiding sensationalism and finger-wagging and settling instead on a neutral-to-positive observational tone that recognizes what's at stake for those of us who face those questions on a very personal level.

I'm also a habitual reader of your columns, emitting a gusty sigh of relief every time I see that Slate, in its coverage of reproductive issues, has showcased your thoughtful approach rather than devoting precious, precious pixels to William Saletan (whose full name in this house is pronounced I Fucking Hate William Saletan).

So now that we have my iron-clad fangirl cred out of the way, can I just ask what the hell you were thinking?

I read with interest your column in Sunday's Washington Post magazine.  That is a fancy way of saying "read while trying to keep my eyes from rolling back crazily in my head."  See, I agree passionately with the central point you make, that insurance coverage for fertility treatment would reduce the incidence of high-order multiples.  I just wish you hadn't pegged that argument to Jon and Kate goddamn Gosselin.

Maybe you know this, but maybe you don't, so I'll be blunt: Lots of infertile people loathe the Gosselins.  Oh, sure, we can identify with them to a degree; most of us have had to let financial considerations affect our reproductive decisionmaking in one way or another.  Plenty of us have had to decide whether to proceed with a cycle that could have resulted in a multiple pregnancy, and understand the dilemma they faced at the time.  And although many of us can't relate to their decision to continue their HOM pregnancy, many can, and even applaud them for doing so.

It's everything after, Liza!  The demands that the state of Pennsylvania extend Medicaid nursing care to their sextuplets — at the time a year old and healthy — because "society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births."  The soliciting of donations and what some feel has been a marked lack of graciousness when given gifts.  The acceptance of trips, a house, and cosmetic surgical procedures — Hair plugs?  Awesome. — as if it were all no more than their due.  And lest we forget, there's the little matter of the shameful and continuing exploitation of their children.  (Oh, yes, I, mommyblogger, did go there.)

My point is that it made me cringe to see you hold the Gosselins up as an example, even as an example of ART gone awry.  They're a lightning rod both within the ART community and outside it, and I would be sorry to see your cogent argument get lost amid people's feelings about them.  You know — I know you know — that there are far, far more...well, normal people contending with the same basic question the Gosselins faced: What's to be done when the most medically appropriate treatment is out of our financial reach?  And even though the family's travils serve as a useful and timely peg, I wish you hadn't hung your otherwise great reporting on it.

It is, as I know you appreciate, a big damn uphill battle, this insurance coverage thing.  I witnessed that firsthand last week, as part of RESOLVE's Advocacy Day.  I was a volunteer meeting with legislators — okay, fine, legislators' aides — asking them to support the Family Building Act, to require that any insurance plan that offers obstetrical benefits also offer infertility coverage.  I did my very best "to make the long-term benefits clear: fewer high-order multiples, healthier children, less exhausted parents."  Only I left out the part about less exhausted parents, because I think that part of the argument is way weak.  And I added my own flourish about ending up with more pocket cash for my own set of hair plugs.

Kidding.  Kidding!  It's the tummy tuck I'm saving for.

Anyway, one of the most basic principles of persuasion is that you don't introduce a negative.  If you are, for example, asking a polite but uninterested 22-year-old with a purple ball-point pen to convince her boss, a ranking member of the Senate Health and Education Committee, to support the Family Building Act, you don't mention Nadya Suleman unless she does.  (If she does, you create a disturbance — "Look!  Over yonder!  I think I might see an anthrax spore!" — and run.)  It clouds the issue and invites objections.  And God and ART patients know there are already enough of those.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I hope, in future, you won't introduce your own negative, diluting your message, which is a powerful one, with trivia.  I mean, come on: "Would better insurance have saved their marriage?"  Does anyone really care?

Don't get me wrong.  I still think you're pretty thoroughly excellent, and I appreciate your work more than I can say.  I think it can stand on its own, and it deserves to, without the silly trappings.



Love,
And I am not being sarcastic,
Julie

P.S.  Wait a minute.  I am reconsidering.  If invoking Jon and Kate gave you the leeway to be informal, using phrases like "doctors often stuffed lots of embryos into a woman's uterus," you know what?  I approve.  Carry on, Liza.  Carry on.

Posted by Julie at 11:55 AM in Jane, you ignorant slut | Permalink

Comments (31)

Lynn Harris wrote in support of insurance coverage for infertility treatment and IVF at Salon Broadsheet—and managed not to go anywhere near the Gosselins or Suleyman. See? It can be done, effectively and responsibly.

Posted by: Orange at Jun 29, 2009 12:29:23 PM

Wellll, yes, but I have a minor problem with that article, actually. Will get to that later!

Posted by: Julie at Jun 29, 2009 12:32:43 PM

I don't disagree that bringing Jon+Kate or Nadya Suleman into the issue clouds it, but I wonder if it also brings the issue to the attention of the general mass who don't care about IF, but do care about J+K?

Posted by: Elizabeth at Jun 29, 2009 12:40:51 PM

I agree with what you say, and I am not thrilled that Jon & Kate were the lead-in, but perhaps they were the timely news-hook that persuaded the editors to run the piece so prominently (front page of Outlook section, for those of you that didn't see Sunday's print edition). A Washington Post piece will be read by many of the people you met with Thursday, people who may not follow ART issues on Slate or Salon. I guess I'm saying it's mostly better than nothing.

Posted by: Madelyn at Jun 29, 2009 12:44:01 PM

It was most likely the editor that pushed the Gosselin connection. So keep your writer crush intact!

Posted by: JennG at Jun 29, 2009 1:35:32 PM

Okay. Now I'm never watching Jon & Kate again.

Posted by: Heather at Jun 29, 2009 1:51:11 PM

When I read the article I immediatly wondered when we would see your analysis. I couldn't help rolling my eyes the whole time either. I don't care about Jon and Kate or their financial problems. They made their choices. Bringing them into the equation was a big negative, as you say.

Posted by: Carrie at Jun 29, 2009 2:13:26 PM

I was looking forward to your post, too, Julie. My issue with the article is that IVF is not the only best treatment for all forms of infertility or all patients. Patients and doctors need to take responsibility for reducing multiples whatever the treatment so that patients can feel that they have less-invasive choices than IVF. Insurance cos. need to structure their plans so that doctors and patients can choose the best course of action for each particular case. I wish Mundy hadn't just pushed IVF in the piece.

Posted by: EQ at Jun 29, 2009 2:26:16 PM

Fair point, EQ — especially since the reality is that 80% (I think that was the number RESOLVE had in its talking points) of fertility treatment stops short of IVF.

Posted by: Julie at Jun 29, 2009 2:36:57 PM

I had never seen J&K until a bit less than a year ago, while I was lounging on the couch looking for something to watch on TV, as my stupid pre-term contractions made it hard to concentrate enough to read, either in print or on the screen. And, oh boy-- it was so vapid I wanted to throw things at the TV. Full on vomit-inducing crap factory. I'm just saying-- I don't think that marriage was long for this world, +8, +3, or +2.

So yeah, keeping them out of the argument would've been so much better. And if an editor insisted they be mentioned, it could've been dispensed with by way of talking about people NOT wanting to be J&K/end up like J&K.

Are you planning on being online tonight for the chat she's supposed to hold with readers? You totally should, you know. :)

Posted by: JuliaKB at Jun 29, 2009 2:49:42 PM

I just read the transcript for the chat that Liza Mundy held this morning. My suggestion is this: DO NOT read the chat transcript if you are having a good day. The opinions expressed by some of the participants just about made my head explode.

Posted by: jen @ negative lane at Jun 29, 2009 3:41:50 PM

1. when people bitch about Nadya Suleman I like to ask "but do you watch Jon and Kate? Because if you do, you are part of the problem." Okay, I don't really SAY that but I sort of want to.
2. Tummy tuck. F*** YEAH.

Posted by: Joy at Jun 29, 2009 3:50:57 PM

The interesting this is that she said, "When Kate failed to get pregnant on her own," yada yada, IUI. NOT quite true. Kate has said herself multiple times that she "had a hunch" something was wrong, found out she had PCOS, and immediately they went to fertility treatments. Nowhere have I ever heard Kate Gosselin say they attempted to get pregnant on her own first.

I don't begrudge the Gosselins their kids. I do, however, think someone should permanently pull the plug on their show. Successful ability to carry multiples to term does not a good mother make. That is for sure.

Posted by: Kim at Jun 29, 2009 4:06:02 PM

i was gonna say the same as other commenters: blame the editor and the news biz before you blame her. everyone shrieks about how you gotta have a news peg for ANY feature story. it was easier for her to tie an infertility piece to jon and kate than to the death of michael jackson or the honduran coup.

Posted by: marjorie at Jun 29, 2009 4:19:10 PM

Julie,
I have been waiting for you to mention the movie "UP". The main two characters at the beginning of the movie struggle with infertility. But seem to quickly get past it and accept their childless existence. I am working three jobs to say up for IVF. It made me cry.

Posted by: Stephanie at Jun 29, 2009 5:43:29 PM

I'm sure Mr. Saletan would appreciate it if you used his FULL name: William Fucking Saletan, That Douchebag. You know, just as a matter of etiquette and proper respect and whatnot.

I do get a little tired of the portrayal of Kate as a Demon Bitch from Hell and Jon as an innocent victim, merely along for the ride.

"A year later, Kate started longing for another baby -- not uncommon among mothers of multiples, who sometimes feel cheated of an ordinary newborn experience and want to try again for a singleton, which is what Kate said she wanted. Jon was skeptical, but she prevailed."

I've never watched the show, so I can't really say, but whether she's domineering or a pushy broad or even a genuinely unpleasant person, Jon married her and very intentionally reproduced with her.

I mean, he can't really say "Oh, I was SO drunk and she poked holes in the condom and forgot to take the pill and then shoved me into a masturbatorium after I signed a metric assload of legal documents while doctors hyperstimmed her ovaries and I figured what the heck, why not? It was a CRAZY NIGHT, lemme tell you!"

He consented to the ART, the IUI, and the show. He's in it up to his neck.

Every time I read something about how they only wanted ONE MORE, I also wonder if the sextuplets sit around trying to figure out which ONE of them J+K wanted, and which five are just baggage.

/rant

Posted by: akeeyu at Jun 29, 2009 5:58:23 PM

1) If Kate Gosselin already complained about the pain of the gonadotropins, would she have been willing to do even MORE of that for IVF? Maybe, maybe not.
2) Not to mention the whole fact that IUIs are considered more heavy-duty and often are a last resort, even for people with insurance.
3) Also, some people object to IVF for moral reasons (not touching that one). Has anyone even asked her if she would have considered it in the first place? Because if she wouldn't, the entire argument is moot.
4) Gah, I had almost forgotten about Nadya Suleman, and now she's back in my head!

The point is, anyone who is even VAGUELY familiar with ART knows these things, and so the entire argument (and thus the article) can easily be written off. I certainly hope it was her editor, because otherwise this woman is hurting, not helping, her cause.

Posted by: Victoria at Jun 29, 2009 5:58:31 PM

You know, I'd like to believe it was all in the editing. I really would. But...it's the Washington Post magazine. The Post's not really known for needing to candy-coat its quasi-political coverage to get its audience to read it, is it?

Posted by: Julie at Jun 29, 2009 7:29:10 PM

Well, total tangent but since you brought the WaPo's political coverage up, Julie -- the online WaPo did just fire Dan Froomkin, who is one of the best out there -- and he most certainly tells things like they are without candy-coating. I don't know WTH they were thinking with that boneheaded decision.

Totally agree with your analysis of said column, though. Spot-on.

Posted by: Shelley at Jun 29, 2009 9:22:17 PM

I am not a mommy, nor a blogger, nor struggling with infertility. I stumbled across your blog while reading Matthew Miller's maybebabyblog.com.

Your posts, and their subsequent comments, are about the funniest things I have ever read. I find myself laughing until I pee a little. No lie.
Thank you for a much-needed laugh.

Posted by: Sarah at Jun 30, 2009 1:05:56 AM

"Oh, yes, I, mommyblogger, did go there."

I just spit on my screen feel free to send me a check for the repairs and while we are on the subject if one more person asks me if I "got pregnant like Kate on Jon and Kate" I will junk punch them, it is unfortunate that the infertile community is so often lumped in with the nut jobs who found doctors incompetent enough to perform such risky procedures.

Also while I am all doped up on Vic (from my D&C last week) let me say that it was far cheaper for me to cancel an IUI cycle that cost me 600 out of pocket than to go ahead and hope that all four eggs didn't fertilize. It was also cheaper than raising 4+ possible children and although it didn't win me a tummy tuck I did get to keep my sanity.

*closes eyes and hits enter…please begin your filleting of me*

Posted by: Duchess at Jun 30, 2009 2:33:32 AM

For the record, I am a card carrying non-fan of J&K+8. And, I've watched a few episodes and read a couple of articles so that I can feel comfortable in my general dislike - mostly the exploitation for financial gain angle gets under my skin.

However, I think linking J&K and their much touted divorce is not the negative that the infertile world thinks it is. Let's be realistic - the fertile world doesn't think enough about infertility to differeniate J&K from the rest of us as different as we know we are! But, it does give a great portion of the fertile world some "right in their living room" exposure to some of the negative impact that the unavailability of costly medical care can have. While the fertile world might think K is a bitch and might think she brought this on herself, a whole lot of them will back up her "won't consider reduction" choice and find themselves agreeing that she does love those kids. Perhaps a great deal of them will think they could like her even better if she was just J&K+4.

Posted by: Katherine at Jun 30, 2009 10:34:42 AM

I tend to think it's better to use examples like the Gosselins and Suleman as the Goofuses of infertility - unlike the vast majority of families undergoing ART who are only trying to conceive one baby (though some would like twins), who keep an eye on the finances and who consider their children their responsibility - not the state's. It's why I believe that we need more people to be open about ART and adoption, to remove the social stigmas. It's easy to vote against things like coverage for fertility treatments or even to outlaw procedures or pass laws that make adoption more difficult if you aren't familiar with anyone who's been through that. But if you know that your sister underwent an IUI, your neighbor adopted and your co-worker used donor eggs, it can change your perspective.

Posted by: Eve at Jun 30, 2009 3:23:10 PM

I'm so pleased that, by using the whole "stuffing the uterus full of embryos" thing, she was able to sidestep the "transfer versus implant confusion, which causes half of us to want to stab out our own eyes in frustration. This way we can better focus on explaining to the non-infertile community the many ways that most of us are not like Jon and Kate...

Posted by: emily at Jun 30, 2009 5:21:01 PM

I rather love this post.
No nothing about ART, but I do love your take down of the article, which I noted with some interest. Also love that you pointed out her hilarous writing...I sort of felt like the article skewed towards...whats the word? sarcastic? something.

Posted by: vanessa at Jun 30, 2009 6:49:01 PM

I have assigned a few chapters of Saleten's Bearing Right book to my students in a rhetoric of reproductive rights seminar. I would LOVE to hear more about your feelings about him

Posted by: sarah at Jun 30, 2009 9:58:24 PM

Great post! It seems like the media is really stuck on both J+K+8 and Nadya Suleman when it comes to discussing infertility. Every time I discuss our use of IF treatments to have our three children, most people bring up these pop culture folks. I find it very frustrating having to discuss the mistakes the media has created around IF treatments. Thanks for doing your part. Maybe someday people will understand more than they do today.

Posted by: Heather at Jul 1, 2009 7:40:06 AM

I agree. J&K shouldn't be the IF world's spokespeople. If for no other reason than they do not understand infertility. I keep wondering why the RE (ob/gyn) that they had hasn't been questioned. Or why it's never come to light what went WRONG and ended in their multiples?

Posted by: christina(apronstrings) at Jul 2, 2009 7:49:40 AM

I am especially intolerant of those who get crazy HOMs with IUI. On my tenth cycle, when I was so awash in Clomid that the ultrasound before the trigger shot was showing four good follicles (just about like Kate, at least one of her stories, if memory serves) my doctor said normally his inclination would be to skip it, but given many other circumstances, maybe I'd want to go ahead, but not if selective reduction was off the table, because if I knew I wouldn't reduce then there was no way we should let sperm anywhere near the potential baby piñata that was my uterus that month. Deciding you won't reduce no matter what should change your choices all the way through the process. Skipping an IUI cycle is not nearly as big a deal as deciding how many IVF attempts you can afford, and how many embryos to transfer.

Posted by: mPDX at Jul 2, 2009 11:53:09 AM

Love MFK Fischer!

Posted by: Margaret at Jul 6, 2009 9:19:20 PM

I read the article before I read your post and was struck by how absurd it was to use the demise of the Gosselin marriage as an argument to support insurance coverage of IVF. Anyone who has watched even a single episode of J&K+8 knows that problems in that marriage have nothing to do with how many kids they have. In fact, having sextuplets has dramatically raised their standard of living.

Posted by: kathy at Jul 14, 2009 1:45:24 AM

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